Yes the battle goes on. I get tired of all that and need to laugh a little. I think this kid is going to love dating the Slut model 2010, when he grows up.
maybe ocd, maybe not.....the only way to tell is to take him on a "vacuum free vacation" and see what happens.....i bet he flirts with the hotel staff and sneaks into a room or two and, well, you know what.......HE IS CAUGHT VACUUMING!!!!!! (oh, the disgrace)
it's not ocd. this kid has been talked about for a few years--was on HGTV, oprah, etc. his fascination started when he couldnt even walk. he has a love affair with stuff from infancy, like some kid that loves Star Wars but cant remember seeing it the first time when they were 2 years old.
good call carpenter man. It is very odd. Very very very odd. He was so friggin' articulate too for a 12 year old. I wonder if hoover or electrolux is just drooling to buy his whole collection for some fat sum so that the 12 year old can buy drugs and prostitutes during the summers instead of vaccuuming the house 2 or 3 times a day!!!
Did he happen to own the Podman 2000 model? It followed vigorously the CanuckaSux (you can still find these relics by googling), the RF Rugburner (the computer brain never quite worked), and the Mako Goop Gobbler(unoriginal in its design but popular in San Fransisco for some reason).
The most powerful known force of suction in the world, the Podman 2000 can remove the chrome on a trailer hitch faster than the CanuckaSux model. It is easily steered with a very small shaft and no forward thrust. This latest model has the smoothest edges. One vacuum enthusiast said, "The Podman 2000 has no points whatsoever." Vacuum Lovers Magazine said,"The Podman 2000 sucks a mighty wind and can gobble up even the largest loads!" Wow, and we thought that honor was for the Mako Model!
So, head out to your local 5 and Dime and pick up a Podman 2000. It won't cost much...I'm sure you can work out a deal!
. you must ask Jesus to forgive you strumm, for your very bad thoughts. You certainly are not acting the good christen, your just acting like an everyday christen LOL.
You see strumm you just prove the saying that the only thing wrong with christianity is that its full of christens.
Another thing is I am sure that we christens were at are best when some of Rome's Emperor's thought it best to use us as fodder in their Coliseums. Then at the least christens knew humility. being humbled in such a way has its upswing.
Now a days most self proclaimed christens are so full of their own vile shat (reference, see your above post) that we smell up to high heaven!
Well, well, well. The great Christian Creationist has decided to bring forth the Chum, and expects me to get in the sewer with him, which I will not do:-P
So much for the high intellectual debates, now he is down to spouting humorless, and I'm guessing here, some kind of Creationist homo erotic activities.
What exactly is in that Creationist Museum?
So much mental perversion, so close to the surface, perhaps a indication of latent Craig's Syndrome, I have heard that is is quite common among the extremist religion crowd.
My what tender skins...Did I hit too close to home?
RF-did you just say "...we christens..."? Yep, right after saying that the worst thing about Christianity is christens(sic). C-A-T smart, Spelling Bee Champ. (You left out "duhhhh")
The big debates ar around the corner, I'm sure. Just having some easy target practice. (Mako-BTW, I know you think you had a point on the Creation arguments. Keep thinking that. There will be other debates where the basics of knowing, science and understanding will come up again...and you will not know, misapply science and fail to understand again, and again, and again. You desperately need the back pats from others and buddy, your neediness shows.)
Hey, how 'bout a hug guys?!
And lo.... Thrush #4 did find his way into the lexicon of Glumbert. We salute you.
Back pats or hugs not needed. This after all is only a video comments site.
I would have liked to have insulted you but with the levels of intelligence you've shown you probably wouldn't get it anyway. Now I suggest you pop to the local library and brush up on your ignorance in preparation for next time round.
See! there's humour in you yet! The arrogance still shines bright, along with the failure to see your arguments crashing down around you.
Critically a few of the couplets didn't quite scan (perhaps 'comrad' would've more apt to go with sad), but I thought overall it wasn't a bad attempt!
That being said - I'm afraid you got blown apart on the whole creationist thing, and not just by me, but by many. However if you want to believe the opposite then so be it! Different thread, different day...
Maybe you're lightening up? After all you are clearly already the self confessed enlightened right?
Mako-thanks for the poetic pointers. My first foray into the ethereal. (I can't dance, either)
As far as the Creationist argument, no kidding.
Your science is unsound. You made claims of facthood and backed them up with claims of suggestion. Bad, bad science. You obviously have volumes of research you can look up, none of which prove evolution. And, you are the one yelling "Facts"..."Proof" (Your hoax argument was one of the weakest you put forward...so was the dendrochronology one.)
I completely recognize my bias and state it up front. If you ever do the same, you will begin understanding what you really do not know.
Bug did a good job with the physics andhas prompted me to revisit what I was weak at in the first place. However, he has made the same mistake you have...using data based on unquestioned assumptions to establish a fact(s).
Cannot be done.
If you assume the earth/universe to be millions/billions years old, then you will look at data in that light and interpret it thusly. Same goes for me...I just happen to be in a minority. (Which explains your very loud arrogance. Which explains your very bad science.)
I know personally, two staunch Darwinists, both University professors doing ongoing research. We constantly go back and forth. They both recognize their assumptions and I would also add, they recognize the weaknesseses their arguments possess; which is why they are excellent scientists.
. Mako writes a ditty about you, And what do you do? (Real original) strumm. your remarks to me and to many are empty or vapid at most. By the way how was your patrol LMAO. Yes I did say the only thing wrong with christianity is that its full of christens. And yes I included myself. why wouldn't I? Unlike you I don't proclaim to be a Great Christen out to do the work of God then slander everyone who disagrees with me with the phrases close to ass rape and come guzzling. YOU and the rest of your Zealot ass wipes are more...No your just like the fundamentalist Muslims Zealot ass wipes that go around pronouncing God is on their side then attempt to murder everyone who happens to share other ideals in the name of their so called God.
Your kind both take out what you want from a book mostly the grim parts and leave the rest mostly the parts about love your enemy, you do remember that little part don't you? I have stated my spiritual beliefs earlier on another thread so if want to blow smoke up some ones ass try your own I'm sure your quite used to it by now. This goes for you and your ALIASES THUS FAR. CHUMMIN,CANUCKl963. you really are a dolt thinking some one actually believes you.
Now Sgt. Strummin you best head out on patrol the bad guys are all around your grandmas house trying to steal the chocolate chip cookie recipe she made just for you. And don't forget to fill your gun with the red caps she bought you.
RandalFlunk- why even speak?
With all that love you are dishing out, I missed your points.
Christian-an adherent to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
christen- ceremony commemorating an inauguration of an event.
Flunk-your brain is overheating. Go get a coloring book and try to stay in the lines.
As Christians go, RF, we're known by our deeds not our words. If Arab Muslims are ass-wipes, then why do you support them? Fair question, I think. I haven't read Stream do any thing but profess his own religious beliefs. You seem to think you're entitled not to have to hear (read) that sort of stuff on Glumbert, so you call any mention of God "preaching", because it gets in the way of all the mother-F***ers and C***-sucker talk that gives you girls stiffies. Except in the tiniest of minds can I see a connection between a guy standing on soapbox and saying "I believe in God" and another guy standing on soapbox and threatening to kill you if you don't believe in God the same way he does. Was that the connection you were trying to make? But you were very quiet when Canuck was doing his Christian-bashing flat-earth thing. If I recall you even chimed in.. You and Chumm had a conversation about it I recall. Maybe these new readers would like to go back and check your words on previous threads. So it does seem to me you're being judged by your actions, not your words. Fence-straddling is something you probably do well...tap dancing on the side-line until a winner comes out, then sidling up to him like a puppy dog to tell him what a great job he did and you was really on his side all the time. Pant, pant, pant. Woof, woof. If you're a Christian just what part of it do you approve? God will no doubt want to know which parts you like, and which parts you don't.
Thx Chumpstream for those wise words. That's us all told.
You're obviously nobody's fool but I sincerely hope someone adopts you soon. You'll feel better then... more real, connected. You know... wanted's perhaps too strong a word but you get the gist?
Streamlined, you still owe an explanation how time dilation supports your young earth concept.
Instead of just defacing you should try to bring up some arguments. Maybe you should call Dr. John Fake Hartnett to help you out, he is really good at dropping observed effects from his thesis papers.
Squashed- sounds like your beef is with Dr. Hartnett. Your problems persist in not seeing the big picture. If you don't like what is out there, go argue with them.
I never presented anything as fact, justwhat was currently being put forth.
Pssst...Buggery, that's how science moves forward and doesn't stagnate: Ideas are put forward based on current observations. Those are then tested, re-tested, etc (each idea always has detractors and supporters who claim the scientific high ground). They are not up for a popularity contest nor are they subject to democratic processes, which currently govern your side of the aisle.
Stick to math...you are good at that.
(I thought I did explain time dilation in my context. just went back a re-read what I thought was sufficient.)
Exact description of your problem: You think it sufficient. In fact it is not.
You did not even know where to find Dr. Hartnetts papers and you had not made an attempt to read them (though this did not stop you from refering to him as an expert). Accepting something at face value is called faith, not science. I suspect my link did not help you either, since you are unable to understand what he writes.
My pointing out that he deliberately drops a couple parameters from his calculations seems not to fit into your view of the world (neither did the parameters fit into his view of the world, which is why he dropped them). But that is exactly how science is faked: Ignore facts that stand in your way proving whatever you want. In his case including the time would have lead to the problem that then he would have had to admit that our galaxy can't be the center of the universe since it is rotating around a common center of gravity with the whole local group. Ah, maybe the local group is the center of the universe? At least we made a step from earth is the center...
So your explanation of how time dilation does support the young earth concept is: It does!
I think my reply was a little bit more substantial than: No, it does not!
My explanation of the whole thing is that you flunked out of studying zoology since you were not up to it. You certainly lack the necessary critical mind to intelligently question information and you also are unable to formulate concepts beyond the very superficial.
Or very short and blunt: You are too stupid to have an opinion on the matter!
Wow.....great! He addresses you as Streamlined and you resort to debauching his handle.(name)
Its funny, in kinda a sad way to see you in a corner squirming, knowing you have been bested! So thats how it works w/ you? When beaten in argument start calling the person debating you names...hmm I see!
Well its good to see its not just me who gets your panties in a bunch.
Just the response one would expect from an arrogant materialist. I also see you are struggling with reading.
Time dilation, in the context of Hartnett's explanation: A key phrase in the Biblical model is "stretched out" the heavens (Ps. 104:2, Isa. 42:5, 44:24...). The idea in Hartnetts model (as he uses other assumptions than Humphreys) is that this stretching out on Day 4 (when heavenly bodies were created) was to the vast size we see today. Vast size and constant speed of light can imply a vast time scale in one earth day. (Assumptions here include: speed of light remaining constant, Earth at the center of a bounded and finite universe, the Bible is the inspired Word of God.)
Understand? Even I understand and am getting around to seeing what is observable and not, in their models...thank you for being an impetus in all of that.
However, that does not change the fact that your assumptions are not admitted or acknowledged; mine are. Do you know the assumptions of the Big Bang? Why they limit its factuality? You probably do, but will not admit it.
If you have a problem with Hartnett or Humphreys, send them an email and instigate a dialogue.
His PhD and current application thereof makes him an expert. (What do you have a PhD in again? Or, is it just a BS ike me?) I find the theories espoused by him (them) very interesting and am fascinated by legitimate scientific criticism. Maybe one day when you stop focusing on Uranus, you can engage them honestly. Until then...peace.
NeanderFlagg- my panties were definitely in a wad, but not for the reasons you suppose. You simply like someone disagreeing with me, for whatever reason.
You're definitely a good sideline cheerleader! GOOOOoooo...FLAGG...Go Flagg Go!
..LMAO Please tell me you weren't wearing a cheerleading dress when you wrote that!
And yes I probably do enjoy when you get a literal spanking on these threads
But it also may be I just like watching the complete breakdown of your own lofty long winded threads. And the disintegration of your self-righteous and pompous comments!
Its hard not to be happy when this happens to someone who's idea of history is the Flintstones.
And the bottom line is that no matter how many facts or proofs are presented in front of you , unless its written in the bible, or your people say its so then you will never change your mind!
So lets address the matter of insult throwing. I have said some things that I openly apologize for.
I need not repeat them I know what was wrote and my regret for having to belittle myself for writing them. (I will not do so again) And until you grow back up I will continue with the Podman technic of word or non word responses.
RF- Keep up the sound effects. They definitely represent your capacities most accurately.
(Sad, you call yourself a Christian and then don't defend the Bible.)
Streamlined, self referencing arguments prove only one thing: The one using them is either out of arguments or stupid (or makes a joke).
Seems like you will willingly jump off a cliff if someone with a Ph.D. tells you to. I am tired of discussing the bullshit from Harnett, he is simply a fake and if you were intelligent enough and sufficiently educated to actually read his thesis papers you could see that yourself. But of course you would never doubt the words of a sacred Ph.D. Just makes me wonder why you deface the work of so many other scientists holding Ph.D. degrees or similar but do not agree with the bible.
(BTW: Here in Germany BS and MS are new academic degrees, so far we had no academic degree as low as the BS, the MS qualification is a bit below the Diplom, Ph.D. is about equivalent to the German doctors degree)
I know it is moot to say this again since you lack any understanding of the theory of relativity (even the special relativity is well out of your grasp), Hartnet is deliberately dropping anything from his thesis that stands in the way of proving the bible and Physics to be compatible. His fable of the stretching of the universe is worthless since his math is flawed from the basic assumption. Earth is not at the center of the universe, everything in the universe is at its center since the universe came out of a singularity. He just made the proof that with enough words and an academic degree you can make pliable people think that the earth is flat.
So while you can bind and gag a flat-earther and carry him beyond where he expects the rim of the world to show him that he is wrong, I know of no way to hammer basic mathematics and physics into a stupid head to get the superstition out of it.
You started by asserting that there is scientific support for the creationist concept, but you always end up with something akin to "it happened since god made it happen".
Just one advice: Convert to the church of the flying spaghetti monster. Of course they are a joke to make fun of fakes and stupids like you, but they defined their deity in a way that you can not logically disprove it (apart from it being ridiculous, which would not be allowed as an argument by a follower of any religion).
Herr Bug-
Please consult Hartnett with what you disagree. Are you using some sort of translating device? I have said repeatedly that what Dr. Hartnett (DR. means he is an expert- but, still can be disagreed with. I know this is a new concept auf Deutschland.) is doing is speculative and has much to explain. I have never said I was an expert in astrophysics. However, poking enormous holes in Big Bang Cosmogeny is not all that difficult. Ease up on the sauerkraut, mein Freund.
I also do not take your word as anything but mired in materialism. Nor should you take mine at face value.
The space-time part of the materialist debate is at best very interesting to me and is very new. I have not drank as much kool aid as you yet. I am sure I will get my fill.
Until then, I suggest you look into the Creation models and see what their critiques are, on a mathematical and physical level. Or, enjoy your bliss.
Any way you cook it, our beliefs have consequences. I hope you will be able to account for yours.
Thank you Streamlined, that was exactly what I wanted to get from you. You finally admitted that you simply don't understand the science you talk about.
S'cuse me but what am I missing with this Kool Aid stuff?
If you drink lots of it what happens? If it means that upon consumption one can repudiate stupidly conceived and naive arguments even better than before then trust me, you don't need or want Bug to drink any, he’ll simply make your position look even MORE shaky than before
He's done MORE than enough to refute your bunk without the need to guzzle this supposed performance enhancing product...
Bug--it is now proven. You are struggling with reading all of my posts. I have said over and over that the space-time argument is very new to me and I am still learning. Yet, you continue to argue as if you have a point beyond disagreeing with Hartnett et al.
Let's sum up (particularly for Mako):
Big Bang Cosmology and Cosmogeny: Has many untested and implausible assumptions but because it is wholly material, retains the support of a majority of physicists (and sheep who do simply will rely on what experts say as fact. Baaa Baaa, Mako.)
Creation Cosmology and Cosmogeny: Has many untested and implausible assumptions but because its assumptions are NOT material, retains the support of a minority of physicists. It too has its sheep...I am not one. I am very interested in the assumptions and tests used to understand God's Universe and I am not afraid to find out that some of the current models are wrong.
You are terrified to find out that a Creationist might not just poke holes in materal Cosmogeny, but actually show evidence of a young Earth. Mako-This is why you are so angry and feel the desperate need to be part of a cadre who can hold onto one another when arguments don't hold water.
Water...interesting: I am right now reading the science of water and how it is part of the myriad pieces that perfectly fit together to sustain life. Interesting readin, Mako.
Bug- I have an idea.
If you have questions for Dr. Hartnett, post them here. If I can have them addressed by Dr. Hartnett, would you allow it?
You can also, do the same by submitting questions at AnswersInGenesis.org.
I would like to hear his responses, too.
Streamlined, the problem with you is that when you have any ideas they are someone elses. You constantly accuse other people of not verifying their information, yet you take obvious bullshit for real.
I would like to apologise for having said that you are too stupid to have an opinion in the matter. That was an insult to anyone who has his own opinion, however stupid it may be. You actually sell somebody elses opinion as your own.
I am really getting tired of explaining to a cave man that a flashlight is not magic. If something is beyond you it does not mean it is implausible, it just means you either don't try hard enough or are too stupid.
Streamlined - let's play house! You be the door and I'll slam you shut...
"Terrified" you say? You must be joking you mental mollusc!
Flabbergasted is a more correct description I feel.
You have shown NO evidence of a young earth that cannot be easily and comprehensively refuted. Zip. Zero. None. Nada. Nil. Niks. Rein. Nichts. Nulla. Nihil.
What makes me giggle most is that you continue to point blank refuse to ackowledge those facts which demonstrate much greater age.
But as we've said before - you go right on believing what you wish, it's all your own faith anyway, just don't continue to try and dress it up as sensible science or you will get blasted again here as you were on the Creationism threads. You were absolutely backed into a corner there and you still feel somehow that it's all about me wanting affirmation? Wanting to be a part of some little group that I can run to? Don't make me laugh!
You accuse me of being angry?! Pot...kettle...black? No not at all my little intellectual invertebrate!
Methinks if you're honest about things, the bitterness lies purely with you as you cannot let go of the fact that you were made to look rather dumb.
I need no back up AT ALL despite your petty claims to the contrary. It just seems that I and Bug among a number of others all know you talk absolute idiocy.
You did. It showed in the threads. Now I appreciate you don't like looking stupid; no one does. But God knows you seem to revel in it - when key facts were laid out in front of you, you did nothing but protest about threads being too long!
Good on you for reading up a bit more on science Chumpstream. You need to. If hydrology is your chosen poison of the moment then do please take the time to read up on the errosive effects of water over time - LONG periods of time.
"I will invent a silent vacuum cleaner" Riiiight... Ever heard about central vacuum system? Almost every house got them nowadays. Why would someone like to drag a noisy and dusty box around the house? What a retard...
Canuck strumchin(three aliases new name) he is simply lost his way. yourself, Mako, Podman and now the new idiocies ideal fighter(Bug) have absolutely drove him loony. Yet pods new approach (sound effects have me LMAO) I my soon join with him.
Mountain dew! I bet his mom still pops his pimples for him.
RF- you feelin smart hanging out with the boys who use big words?
Repeat after me (out loud)
"One smart feller, he felt smart."
"Two smart feller, they felt smart."
"Three smart fellers, the all felt smart."
"One smart feller, he felt smart." "Two smart feller, they felt smart." "Three smart fellers, they all felt smart." "Four thousand old earth, just a brain fart"
I haf read all ze posts, but forgot to view ze video in mein excitement! I haf done so now, und I must say zis boy vith ze vacuum cleaner collection is ein imbecile.
I vonder if zis could be ein old film of ze young Herr Rabz? Vere is he by ze vay? I haf been missing his - how do you say? - uphisownarse vitticisms.
I beleef zee Rabz of vich you speek may haf taken it upon himself to follow Fearofflying's advice viz zee small rodent hamster creature und may be carrying out zee Menegele style insertions in zee anus.
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