SORT OF!! Kerry has so much more to talk about when it comes to actual combat then the Knuckle head in office,Who avoided serving all together by hiding down in texas!
Sorry, pal, you've been misinformed...or maybe just stupid. i can't remember which. But it's Kerry who lied about his service...and there's hundreds of witnesses to prove it. Bush never saw combat, but did serve. And you, if i recall, are still pissing all over the shoulders you stand on in your family who also served.
I'm stupid huh,! Thats a great response. Typical coming from someone so bright (Insert sarcasm here)So many here respect you and your opinion that its almost overwhelming!! LOLOLOL !!
What is there to say, Canuck? It plays on common stereotypes that certain people have to believe. I think the video is funny.
In the current environment, a few of the witless will think there are larger points to be made with it.
As far as the video is concerned, it was only mildly funny. Not clever nor witty. (It was too long for wit and too predictable for clever) But, itwas funny in the same way the 3rd season of "In Living Color" was funny: same line(s) of humor, different scenery and people.
I kinda think the larger point to be made from this vid is that it alludes to the increasingly innate desire to litigate which pervades much of US and, increasingly, European society - there seems to be an increasing search for something, ANYTHING to blame when things go wrong.
Hence warnings are posted out of the ying yang.
My guess is they're implying that this 'litigation-society' is leading itself dangerously towards a point where going to war requires you to sign a waiver in order that your family won't sue if you die fighting for your country.
It's a wry dig at the way people increasingly sue for millions at the merest hint of hot coffee passing their lips through a container not marked with:
'Danger hot coffee...erm. Hot!'
What will the label say on the military sign-up papers?
US SURGEON GENERAL
"The Army - Could Be Hazardous To Your Health And Those Around You"
Mako, good observation, only the vid alludes to no such thing. You just said that because you wanted to sound smart. I'm glad it made you get in touch with your inner self, only every swinging richard in America already knows who and what that self is...self-gratifying, shrinking violet terror Symp. Simple psychology, really. The premises of the vid are all false, starting with the corporate fat-cats calling the shots, down to the notion that you have to have been to war to either fight one or comment on one. FDR didn't. Besides I couldn't find that clause in the Constitution, although I expect Tweedle-Dumbest could. He can find anything, especially if it ain't there.
Ah....thought there had been little need of zithromax lately.
Like a recurrent dose Chummin once again surfaces.... I can only assume your return is purely down to you disliking the truth of what I said?
I shall offer little back in response other than to request you cease and desist from releasing such petty cyber flatulence into an atmosphere peopled by significantly more evolved beings than yourself.
To summarise.
Disclaimers are put on products to avoid litigation. This is exactly what the vid is about.
In the context of this vid (and in the context of the ads for the US Army which the US admin pays inordinate amounts to an ad agency to produce and to a media agency to place in front of the public for their consumption), this is a slap in the face of all you seemingly hold dear - namely confronting the easy "slap em down and the do what I say" mentality...
You are a far, far more than an idiot.
Cumchin - offer something useful or (types in vain hope) fuck off.
I resurfaced because the truth ain't in you...and it's my job from time to time to remind people out there who don't already know you. Just like a little half-French Brit, trying to convince people you've outgrown your knickers and can use big words. People hiding under their beds have a special view of the world, and it is interesting, to a point, but it is hardly factual. That sort of advertising was around before you were born, at least since '92...how old are you again?...and it is far less false than the average Burger King ad. I will admit it hits several chords, such as manliness and love of country, which probably are a little distant to you. But that was a brave effort to read into it something that's even remotely erudite. Your plagiarizing better websites now. Good job.
Mako
Shirley you don't think the video was to show the absurdity of disclaimers. Any adult over 25 knows that disclaimers protect you from litigation about as effectively as Canuck protects the mall.
The disclaimer prop is the vehicle to continue tired old (dare I say) lefty arguments against the military (as long as a war is being prosecuted by a righty). Further, it knows its audience. As Tehdang succinctly pointed out: They are preaching to the choir.
Although, not seeing the big picture is keeping to form, Mako.
You like to reinfect Glumbert everytime something comes up which slags the current neo-con viewpoint. I find that far more interesting than anything you say - it suggests your agenda is far more political than you'd care to admit
Don't worry though, once the war in Iran gets going we'll have lots more to chat about honey.
You resurfaced also because you don't like seeing a viewpoint which doesn't conform to the closeted little world you live in, and would impress on others were you able.
No plagiarism here by the way; just a thought...a point to be made...a use of the brain - none of which you have ever been capable of incorporating into the threads you've posted.
French-British born in 1992 hey? Wow - I see you're 'profiling' isn't coming along in the leaps and bounds you'd hoped... Which of my postings gave you that absurd impression my little cubicle hugger?
Sorry to come all over the face of your sought after promotion but nope, you're very wrong again (wanna remind me again about those 'fossils' found in igneous rock "20,000ft" up a volcano which wasn't even that high? The ensuing debate that followed your rather idiotic comments was one to which you were directly invited. You sent a rather ill equipped delegate to deal with it - a little cowardly do you not think?)
Hint #1 - there are only a few decades between 1992 and when I was born.
Hint #2 - the continent of my birth is not Europe
*Note to Cumchin's boss - With respect, Sir, the little serf you have working for you in cubicle 4? He really isn't very good at profiling people so perhaps give him some re-training? He'd be a good assistant and would probably manage 4 gold stars and employee of the month if he got the drive-thru orders right
As usual Cumchin - I leave you with the oft requested plea; add something to the debate or fuck off.
Streamy, (knew you'd coat-tail on the back of putrid fish-guts), I find your question a little confusing. You ask:
*Shirley you don't think the video was to show the absurdity of disclaimers*
Erm... do you want to perhaps read the title of the clip again, re-watch the vid and reassess... The entire clip is based around that joke is it not, the larger point I tried to make was about why the NEED for them.
I'll explain it simply for you - products which have disclaimers on them have them for a reason. That reason primarily tends to be because the company producing it wants to cover their arses.
Now whether these disclaimers actually protect or not depends on how comprehensive they are / how good your lawyer is.
Frankly their efficacy is irrelevant; I'm not arguing whether they work, I'm simply commenting on the way litigation society has ensured the need for them on everything.
McDs now have far fewer litigious cases against them through idiots biting into hot pies or drinking hot coffee because they've had to label the products with warnings. Sure, cases will still be made against them but you can be damn sure that a product without disclaimers allows far greater freedom of litigation against it than the product which disclaims everything.
This culture of litigation is what allows someone who's kid falls of a climbing frame in a park to first sue the park (who show a perfectly maintained frame with all required disclaimers posted in full view) to THEN sue McDs 100 yards away because an 'expert' found traces of McDs grease on the frame which led to it being "too slippery to grip". That desire to aportion blame shines through.
The culture of litigation in general is a slightly larger point than using disclaimers in a satirical advert focusing on the Army.
I only show up for liars and terror-Symps. You're both, as is Tweedle-Dumbest. Hey, a guy's gotta have a little fun. Pricking little abcesses is one of them. Nice to see you work overtime to put me in place. Actually, i hope you get better. How a person turns out is all that matters. Self-worship and hatred for all other things is not the path to virtue. As I once told George Michael, we're all pulling for you. Cheers
I realized the Marine Corps commercials lied when I got to bootcamp and found out that we wouldn't be climbing mountains in khakis and wife-beaters or slaying giant fire-breathing dragons.
So I decided to join the Navy cuz I wanted to jump out the back of helicoptors into broiling ocean waters with the rest of my SEAL buddies while Godsmack plays in the background. Come to find out not everybody in the Navy does that.
Pretty Clever. All good humor has to have an ounce of truth to it and this one does, as well. So naturally, it is directed at that audience with an equal amount of brains. I see the regular hide-under the bed terror-symps are still with us. Hey, girls! What's stupid is the idea that these fellows might think they might recruit some new anti-war cannon fodder....but the same list of dullards show up each time. Same lies, same untruths, just packaged differently, but the same idiots show up to swallow the bilge whole. And God knows, there's probably ,what ?, 2-3 undecideds out there in Manitoba just waiting for Jesus H Canuck and Mako the Baptist to baptize them in the warm sweet waters of cowardice and lead them out of the shadows of honor, into the Valley of servitude. The minds of the criminally stupid are a thing I have yet to gather enough wisdom to discern
Seems to me that SOMEONE IS living in a glass bubble, or denial here. For sure. And funny enough, the folks who are usually occupying that bubble are invariably the ones who fall into two categories:
1. They never wore THE uniform;
2. They never saw "combat".
So I DEFINITELY think the term "coward" is more than applicable here.
Chummin: What branch of the service are you, or were you in? Or are you are on your way to the recruiting office? Or perhaps your application for re-enlistment was denied due your lose of limbs to that roadside bomb. Did you type your imcomprehensible nonsense with your hooks?
Oh, shucks I gotta go back to hiding under the bed, with sweet dreams of Osama dancing in my head, while real combat-hardened men such as youself defend our freedoms. Thank you, Sgt. Chummin, Thank you!
Who hates Canadians, and would like to see America, hating or at war with Canada? Who hates, berates, and taunts all who do not want to continue the war in Iraq? Who says that if a American is not dying, or supporting the war in Iraq they are a coward? Who supports all actions of the US administration as per the war, but is opposed to anything the US government action to assist its own citizens? Who wants America to stay in Iraq? Who wants America to begin a war with Iran? Who says all of these things from a EXTREME Pro-American standpoint? Who reuses the same terms over, and over, and lacks grammatical understanding of the English language? Who professes that all this is true because his God told him so?
Hmmm. A AQ cyber operative would say all of these things.
The US government will be by eventually to collect his ass for a trip to git mo.
...Chummin face facts - you're a self confessed office dweeb who gets paid to surf the web and try to start arguments
I know you'd rather proclaim yourself the gavel-carrier of judgement but as you've judged nothing that rather falls flat doesn't it.
I love knowing you sit tightly squeezed into your underwear-over-lycra- leggings-ensemble, with the hero mask your mum knitted disguising your acne-flecked features, hoping to save the world with a PC)
You're very brave.
This is my weapon, this is my gun
One is for fighting, one is for fun
Keep that mouse oiled there - you never know when you need to spring into action and click 'post'
Imagine, Tweedle Dumbest, you actually stealing my own lines!? I forgot, you wear a rent-a-cop uniform in T-To. I've worn the uniform and been shot at and hit...and you already knew that. Point is, by your own measure from several vids, (back) , you have no right to try to even dispute me. Your pal, Tweedle Dumb the Baptist was right, the internet is a great invention..it allows you to re-emerge every new vid just like a brand new baby, tabula rosa, and you can start all the lies over and over again. Good to know you're still here, Pal, makes my job all the more fun.
Randal, once again you don't read enough. larry Craig never made fun of gays or made any comment of disapproval. If I recall, that was the former Gov of New Jersey. And for Stutz, new name here. I was somewhere between a Lt and Col, which also means I went to college and read over one book without pictures. And I wasn't drafted. Volunteered....that may be a new word for you, so go look it up. Simple Question I ask ever new freshman, and which Canuck and mako already flunked (by cowardly refusing to answer it...just so you'll know how low the bar on chicken-shit is): John 15:13 (you can read it yourself). "No greater loves has a man than will lay down his life for his brother" (I paraphrased the verse.)
You agree or disgaree? (Forget that some carpenter in the Middle East said it. Pretend Kanye West said it. Whaty tya think. Good thing? Bad thing?
Canuck...What do you think? Your articles continue to show what others think. (Unless, they speak accurately for you.)
I don't entirely agree with Chummin...but, I do see that the contrarian road you seem to advocate will lead to servitude. In fact, your defenses of state run health care, the Bosnian war, etc show you are halfway there.
Not convinced anymore that it is open cowardice that motivates you...right now it appears to be simple contrarianism. I'd be interested to know what you think of GWB's Medellin opinion.
Thanks Mako. I missed your rapier-like wit. In fact, not long ago I was at 12,000 feet in a little known mountain range in the Balkans, near Serbia. Hadn't seen a phone, much less the internet, for over a week. See what i get to do...and get paid for it? I get to hump black-eyed hill-women, drink fine home-brew rakia, and talk about futball. Wow! I am also very brave, by the way, for only the bravest or most foolish would get in front of that truck of witticism and intellectual depth you display. You and Cletis of the Royal Mounted Dispatchers Corps, still don't get it. Keep your feet out of your mouths, and I'll stop coming on line and telling everyone, "HEY, THESE IMBECILES HAVE THEIR FEET IN THEIR MOUTHS." Duh! Podman, I have absolutely no idea what you said so can't reply. have you taking Randall's correspondence course on communication? Cheers, Girls
"I've worn the uniform and been shot at and hit..."
By what? Falling birdshit, after you've stepped out from behind your McDonalds to have a smoke? Shut your fuckin' cakehole, ok?
"No greater loves has a man than will lay down his life for his brother"
What, are you kidding me here? You wanna adhere to that huh? Okay. Where were you during Rwanda? Where were you during Darfur? Where were you during the siege of Sarajevo? Huh? Fuckface? And now...where ARE you while Burma starts to get butchered by a dictatorial government? See, I used to think you where simply a religious nut, but NOW I see you for nothing more than just a nutty hypocrite (not to mention racist and bigoted as hell).
Well Stream, YOU prefer YOUR health care system run by a bunch of greedy, faceless corporate bureaucrats....fine; I (and the rest of the civilized world, as well as the majority of Americans), prefer the universal model.
Once again, you and "chummin" or whatever the fuck he/she/they/it call themselves, are, as usual, in the minority: the minority in terms of these threads; the view of the population; and in terms of common sense.
YOU know it.
I know it.
And the MAJORITY on HERE....know it.
Live with it. You'll sleep easier.
Or better yet, chummin, how 'bout y'all just keep bringing your stupid views around here some more, so I can continue to slap the fuck out of all of you turds. Who knows? Maybe one day I'll give you and the rest of the Carlysle Group permission to one day go out and get me a coffee.
I would wipe the floor with you,LMFAO!!!! You of little mind! I said this before and I will say it again. There is nothing on these threads I would say to anyone that i wouldn't say to them face to face.,,,
And you sound like so many little PUNKS that sit out there doing nothing but living some sad life somewhere! And now that I think on it I feel a bit of pity for you. :(
Try not being such a little turd and maybe you can have a better... Well...understanding of people in the real world.
Climbing mountains pfttt! Please nigga ! Who the fuck hasn't???
My oh my! Cumchin - you are getting your little knickers in twist here aren't you! This is not like you at all... LOL
What is it with you and lies? You love to tell them dontcha!
I'm assuming your visit refers to Stara Planina - it's certainly a nice place for a picnic and if getting to hump black-eyed hill-women, whilst under the influence of local moonshine floats your boat then who am I to argue.
Sounds rather Euro-deliverance to me personally...
Pity nothing approaches 12,000ft high anywhere in the Balkans though.
I know heights aren't your forte so I will allow you some wriggle room (Ararat of course being, ahem, 20,000ft high).
I guess what is of more concern is that as you've proclaimed yourself a brave and voluntary military expert, one would assume you to be a little more conscious of physical geography in an arena in which you must surely have served?
Now - how we gonna invade Iran... Or are we gonna let the Israelis take a pop first and allow ourselves to be 'unwillingly' drawn in?
Oh yes - we already have some useful bases in Iraq and Afghanistan so staging from there will be fine. Of course Enterprise is already in the Gulf and with Malabar completed in the SCS I'm guessing Nimitz and Kittyhawk will be en route unless already there right?
Once invaded I guess you'll be along for a picnic on one of those beautiful 35,000ft high mountains in the Zagros right? Will you look forward to humping the hill tribe women there too?
God I love this. For all other readers, I finally got an answer out of Canuck aka/tweedle-Dumber, asked weeks ago, re whether he would risk his life for his neighbor. The answer, a resounding NO. The rest is easy for you to figure out. You can qualify everything he says or does with that one caveat...he believes in nothing strong enough to risk himself for it. He goes through three keyboards a month just "kicking ass" out of turd-balls like me. Scraped his wittle knuckle once. Yes, Canada, you can stand firm, The Royal Canadian Mounted (fill in the blank) are on the prowl.
The Balkans is a region, as well as mountain range. The Stara Planina are foothills, almost. I have hiked them though. You should have read further in Wikipedia. I'm no military expert, never proclaimed to be. I just know the difference between good and bad and know in a general sort of a way what good has to do with bad when it gets too rambunctious. That's common sense, not military genius. I do have a little sport with children and weeniless males who strategize from their keyboards. I listen to experts, just like you do, then choose the ones that most fit my ideas of good and bad, just like you do. Your idea of good is my idea of bad...o we are are not friends. One of of us will win. Actually one of us is winning and that just really frosts your ass. See, you'd rather see 5 million people massacred than be wrong. That is what I call small-minded. That is why we are not friends.
For Canuck, who I rarely address directly, if you will recall, the John 15:13 verse was used a qualifier several weeks ago by Mr Chummin as to why Americans seem willing to lay down their lives for total strangers, e.g., Civil War, WWI, WWII, even Vietnam to an extent. No other country ever has done this. I asked you if Canadian history teachers taught in your schools whether those men at Normandy, or in Korea, died for their fellow man or for King and Country. You chose not to answer. I have my guesses as to why, but no matter. The fact is America does do that sort of thing, and in my no else was the original point of bringing it up. That said, you'll note we didn't invade Czechoslovakia in 1946, although one general wanted to. We didn't invade China after they tried to keep Korea in NK's hands in 1951, although one general wanted to. We didn't send troops to Budapest in '56. We didn't move into Biafra in 1971 although I wanted to. And that was a Republican president. In other words, we do what we can, when we can, and when there are other national security issues on the tables. But I'm telling you things a smart guy like you already knows...when sober. We didn't go to Darfur, although I wish we would, because the UN has claimed primacy there. I don't agree. We didn't go to Rwanda or Sarajevo, because our president then saw the world pretty much the same way you do, as his own personal birthday cake. Outside of being tall, rich and smart I see a lot of similarities between you and ol' Bushel Britches. I was for going to Rwanda as well. I would've been against the Mexican War, but hell, they've taken it all back anyway, after we Gringoes greatly appreciated the property. Pretty smart, those Mexicans. And I certainly deplore what our soldiers did in Toronto in 1812, almost as much as i'm sure you deplore what they did in Washington. As you can no doubt tell, there is a certain consistency about me when it comes to war in general. I can't find that in you. If you were a pacifist you would say so, but you haven't. You believe in war just as much as I do...but you have no guiding light(s). Not believing in God you don't have a clear firm bedrock belief in Good, other than your own vanities and appetites,therefore, it follows, you see Evil as just something less harmful. I believe in a sort of universal liberty, I AM FOR SOMETHING, but you only believe in what you hate. This is not an argument, just a restatement of facts as you have laid them out over the past few months on Glumbert. This is why you are irrelevant.
Ohhhhhh.......so NOW you're an "expert" on the Balkans, huh? A while back, you made a comment about "going out on patrol", and NOW you just know alllllll about the BALKANS. I seeeeeeeee. I repeat: Shut your cakehole(s).
And as for all those gosh-darn altruistic wars that various U.S. Administrations got into, just because they "had a love for their fellow man".....well now...let's break this down:
The Civil War: Jefferson Davis wanted out, because he felt that the federal government was trampling all over States' rights, and getting too high-handed; first shot fired at Fort Sumter in 1860 and it was game on. The war was going down the shitter for Lincoln, who suddenly turned the tide by.....ta-da!!....making it about SLAVERY!! (prior to this, Lincoln is on record as saying that if he could have preserved the Union AND kept slavery....he would have). Read your own fucking history, ok?
WWI: Pres. Wilson didn't jump into it until 1917...four years after the war was raging. Yeah. Okay. REAL altruistic.
WWII: FDR didn't jump into THIS one until the war had raged for THREE years. Swell. REAL altruistic.
Vietnam: LMFAO! I bet the 2 million vietnamese DEAD (and families of the 56,000 American dead) are STILL grateful for Pres. Johnsons little ALTRUISTIC adventure.
Truman gets a reluctant pass for Korea, primarily because it was a U.N.-SANCTIONED ACTION.
Okay. You are "for something", huh?
No. The only thing YOU are for, is eating up the same tired, rancid bullshit that your corrupt political leaders have fed you; you want to go back to this fucked-up version of a "Leave It To Beaver" world (which, btw, was also a myth), where there were NO Mexicans, Blacks, Indians or any other non-caucasions living in your neighbourhood; when there were no child molestors lurking around; when kids never took drugs and only listened to Pat Boone and Perry Como, and where there was NO alcoholism. Well guess what?
IT WAS ALL BULLSHIT AND IT NEVER REALLY EXISTED!!!
That applies up here...as well as down there.
And until you get that through your head(s), then the small destructive fanatics like yourself who are in the MINORITY....will continue to be a malignant cancer in the flesh of a great nation.
Rest my case, Captain Insipid. You are irrelevent. Never has anyone written (plagiarized) so much and thought about it so little. But see, once again, you dodged the question about what you are FOR and what you would fight for. When you can't even tell yourself in the mirror those things, everyone out here knows a genuine coward when they hear one and judges everything else accordingly. I gave you a second chance. Too bad, you blew it. Cheers
I do like one thing about you Capt I. You're one person here I can absolutely dangle like a puppet. I snap my fingers, and you hit Goggle for an hour to prove to absolutely no one who cares that you aren't as stupid as I say you are...only proving you are! God, I love this job
Seriously...you've actually posted something that contributes.
One comment in response to your statement that "We didn't go to Darfur, although I wish we would, because the UN has claimed primacy there"
Now... let me get this straight... This UN you speak of must harbour some huge power over the mighty US administration if you cannot go to Darfur and help those in need there.
This would be the same UN that suggested the war in Iraq would be illegal under international law?
The same UN that was ignored by your leadership?
The same UN about which you stated "In America we still know why our men die and it wasn’t for the bleeding Commonwealth or the f’ing United Nations"?
That same UN right?
Cumchin - Why the change of heart over Darfur when it comes to listening to the UN?
Now given how much disdain you've show for the UN in the past, why is your administration not simply gnoring the UN claim to primacy in Darfur and going in to help with a militarily protected humanitarian mission
Remember what you live by:
"No greater love has a man than will lay down his life for his brother
(I'm listening intently to those goal posts being shifted)
You need to read more closely. I said we (the US, Bush, Congress, the Defense Dept) hadn't gone to Darfur because the UN didn''t want us to. The UN actually sanctioned us to go to Iraq, too. Our government always acts, and will in Iran, if and when necssary. I want us to go to Darfur anyway, and tell the UN to piss off. So no change in position. I think you just misread it. Everything I've just said here, then, makes the rest of your comments moronic. Cheers
In the interests of quality control regards those pesky untruths you like to seek out, thought I'd give you a hand...
Would my little bird dog care to respond on Kofi's comment above?
Must say it really does look like the UN gave a glowingly positive sanctioning of the US invasion and occupation. Or not as the case may be.
Hmmm. What does this make your prior statement then?
Whaddya think? Would I be remiss in calling it an untruth? A lie? Bullshit?
Where do you stand on this little issue?
Actually 'lie' is possibly unfair, I apologise. This assumes you capable of imagination and forethought. Simple naivety and ignorance appears the better summation.
Britain has just increased its Ministry of defence budget by 20 billion part of it to improve barrack conditions and to up its recruitment campaign, I wonder why?
This little prick of a war in Iraq is nothing to compare with the one that's coming, that's why. At least the Brits know it's coming, Imagine the poor Dutch. Won't know what hit them...just like 1914 and 1940. Some things never change
My Dear Mister Chummin, Your clairvoyance is indeed startling; yes, our former colony of Mesopotamia is a mere skirmish compared to the Coming Rapture, where Great Britain, cleansed in the blood of the Lamb, will be returned to it's rightful status and the permanent sunshine of our Empire! All species will unite behind Good King William,
.......and niggers and honkies, porn queens and towelheads, will lay down their lives for each other, cause the love be flowin. So yeah, baby, I dig your biblical scene, but that manger dude ripped off Kanye. Word.
So, Herr Chummin, before I was so rudely interrupted, I heartily agree with your artfully paraphrased wisdom of Our Lord. Please continue to share your, dare I say, poetic insights with the hoi polloi of Glumbert, serfs and vassals all.
Lord Stutz, Seventh Earl of Blogshire
(I keenly await your constructive criticism; although I am old and frail, I invite your witty vituperation.)
Lord Stutz - your respnse says all that needs saying so beautifully!
"No greater love has a man than will lay down his life for his brother" is indeed a fine truth.
One normally finds those who HAVE been in a position where the laying down of life may really be the end result are generally FAR less inclined to brag about it online, than those who HAVEN'T but want to cultivate an online persona.
Those with that personal experience under their belts tend towards rememberance and respect, rather than denigrating the memory of the fallen through posting much here. There are some posters here who have served their countries - you note they do not brag too much.
Our little Chummin's supposed service ranking between 0-1 and 0-4, coupled with a loudly proclaimed desire to let all know how voluntarily brave he is suggests our little cyber-crusader wishes to add another fallacious string to his mis-firing bow.
Remember this voluntary bravery is manifesting itself in someone who admits they sit in an office cruising the cyber highway for a living.
Cumchin's personal mision statement
Yay though I troll through the valley of the shadow of Glumbert
I shall fear no evil for I am the meanest motherfucker in my cubicle
my point was that Britain has had bad bad press on the Iraq/Afgan war as well, people are not joining the forces because of this so the MOD have increased their recruiting campaigns and are improving barracks accordingly.
There's been bad press about Soldiers dying and getting there pay stopped the day they die. Pay outs for injures have been a joke, one guy came back from Iraq with no legs, i think 49 serious injuries, he survived but can not speak or move and is pretty much brain dead and got a very low pay out, what an insult, it's been all over the papers, this brave man fighting for his country has been treated with no respect!! un fucking believable !!!!
...yes Cumchin - what is your pathetic point-scoring little comment for?
I understand a major is somewhere between a Lt (2nd and 1st) and Col. Along with rank of Captain.
You said you were somewhere between a Lt and Col. You never specified Col. Hence I never included it. My profuse apologies. Really. I mean it. I am very sorry for you.
Anyway, enough! You bore me. I have to go and joke around, let of steam. You carry on creating clouds of it.
What time is reveille for you? Surely there's a cyber patrol you cannot miss?
My colleagues tell me I have overstepped my bounds, so I will make a partial apology. We have a few rules, as you already know, among them is we can take aim at liars, cowards, the voluntarily stupid (people like Captain Insipid), Terror-Symps, and a few others, but only once they have revealed themselves.
Irrespective of whether you fall into any one of the above categories, we are precluded from jumping on any contributor who merely voices an opinion, unless it can be clearly shown they were plagiarized from someone else’s thoughts. I accused you of just that, and while I believe it is most likely true, my colleagues don’t agree. We are supposed to avoid preemptory personal attacks. Our job is to protect the internet highway from out-and-out dishonesty. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own set of facts. As for lies, there will always be those who simply make stuff up from whole cloth, such as Captain Insipid, but the far larger lie, is when you shout out that an opinion is a fact. I know it isn’t cool to say “Bush lied…in my opinion”, so you have to report both the main opinion and supporting opinions as facts. We also are supposed to point out the mind reading liar, the person who knows other men’s minds, and their motives. Circumstantial evidence is allowed in criminal cases only to prove a deed was done. Even the jury cannot get into the mind of the actor and decide on his motives. These are what we call the Viral Lie. They are craven. Once revealed we will not debate that person (what’s the purpose?) but will dog him until hell freezes over. You already know this. The same goes for cowards, and this has nothing to do with the fear of physical injury. Our questions are intended to reveal bedrock beliefs that underlie an opinion. We like to know what a fellow is FOR, what he believes in…as most of you have been very clear about what you are against and what you hate, but rarely tell anyone what you are for. If you’re a pacifist then there must be something in a positive thing you can say about it. Catholics can. If you’re an atheist there must be something positive you can say about it. Even Hitchens can speak glowingly about atheism, and doesn’t have to crap on religionists in order to do it. In one form or another, on several sites, we have asked this sort of question close to 700 times, with app 200 no-answers, and over 450 go-to-hell type responses. Only 5 have actually been able to tell us what they are for, while filling reams of someone else’s words about what they hate. This puts you in the lowest 99 percentile. Worse, being one of the 200 who wouldn’t answer at all, this often means you can’t even tell yourself what you are for…which is the lowest form of craven cowardice. Or you could be hiding another agenda. Either way, you are fair game for being called either a coward or a Terror-Symp, or both. We are not supposed to give away vital data about ourselves, in part because it is usually irrelevant. My age or former military service are completely irrelevant,, as there is no way you could ever know if I’ve even been shot at, or hit. Or wore a uniform, or humped black-eyed girls in the Balkans. Canuck wears his stupidity on his sleeve so we can't exactly ignore that. No one believes him anyway. The internet allows anyone to lie about anything, as long as you can fake it. I only guess you are a male, but clearly not a man. You could be anywhere from 17 to 60, who knows? But you show the maturity of a 20 year old, and rather mommified, and, my colleagues agree, a little insecure about your own intellectual abilities. With guys like Captain Insipid on Glumbert you can at least appear smart. We know as little about you as you do about us. And I don’t really care, only to note you do go to a high C when we get close. That said, Our rules never change, stay within the truth, as I’ve said before, keep it honest within yourself, and I’ll leave you alone. Then I will “fuck off”. Cordially, Scatman
Just a wee thought (opinion if you like), but perhaps your intense arrogance in delivery may have something to do with why your online 'questionnaire' hasn't garnered the response you were hoping for?
Getting to know people on friendlier, funnier terms often enables more information to be elicited from them dontcha think?
Let's face it - we're all online for whatever reasons. Some to relax, some to mud fling, some to have the odd argument. Whatever... The key thing is that it's without any real form of control present. We can therefore say what we like really. I normally like to try and keep my posts lighthearted, and, when debating a point be truthful when stating facts or highlight when it is my own opinion.
Either way frankly I see no real reason to explain this to you as what can you do about it if I want to run around claiming all sorts of untruths? You got it! Absolutely sweet Fanny Adams matey.
So, when you turned up and pompously proclaimed some kind of authority in an environment where none can really exist, there's really only one reaction to expect from me at any rate; namely I thought it was stunningly stupid to assume this position and expect anything positive to arise from it. Your handle is too obvious and your subsequent posts consistently reaffirmed this initial sentiment.
Right. For what it's worth:
I am 'for' my woman, my family and my friends.
I am for the powerful protecting and heeding the weak
I am for the every day man who protects his home and land from invasion by others who wish to impose upon him
I believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth but I know this is something deeply primal within me
I am for that same man stopping at the boundaries of his land when he has repelled those invaders
I believe in no God but in the wonder of the universe and our ability (or not) to try and find out as much as we can about it through human endeavor
I believe others can hold their theist beliefs too, and I believe those beliefs should never be imposed on others
I believe in human spirit and spirituality without the need to deify it
I believe belief is personal
I believe all empires crumble
I believe in the power of the platitude
As you say, all other information is irrelevant. I know your profiling skills are rather like the crotch of your little shorts; next to nothing. Keep trying and you'll pass the three month probation.
Your constant use of 'Terror-Symp' simply because people don't really want to interact with you on personal issues seems hypocritical? The term itself is SO 'of the moment' and modern sounding though, that I grant you. But to label people with this without proof that they actively sympathise with terrorists? False mind reading some could call it or am I plagiarising now?
Don't worry about answering these, just have a think about it.
And personally I see nothing wrong with Canuck - he can do whatever he wishes, as all of us can and do in this little Glumbertian world!
Partial apology accepted
Now if you would be so kind as to fuck off as promised.
Way to go.! Finally a real from-the-mind bit of writing. In fact i'm for all the things you are..every one, without qualification, except i believe in a living God. But no matter, you're half a theist, at least. Pascal said you don't know it yet, but you've been found. Why did it take so long? It was a simple enough question. I'm sorry your little reverie on glumbert has been shattered but it was shattered because you allied yourself with a few idiots and crossed the line on truth. I don't care how many ways you can "fuck", if you lie, or make baseless claims you can't back up, or state opinions to be facts, I'll be on you like stink on shit. That hasn't changed. Cheers
THIS IS STUPID. MAKE BY A COMPLETE PUSSY WHO NEEDS TO BE BITCH SLAPPED THEN SHOT. IRONIC THAT THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THIS CRAP ARE THE SAME ONES WHO WOULD BE KILLED FOR THIER VIEWS IN 1 DAY OVER IN THE MIDDLE EAST. BUNCH OF CYR-BABY PUSSIES THAT SEEM TO RUN THE INTERNET. HAVE A NICE DAY.
I find these callous and capricious identity confessions to be most disturbing. You, sirs, have turned my Glumbert universe upside-down, and to what end? To pull aside the curtain shielding this virtual costume party? Harrumph!
I am yours truly, merely Lord Stutz
P.S. Lady Stutz and I took high tea with Mister Skidmarks a fortnight ago, and as he is Swedish, he cannot be, ergo sum, Canuck.
My ageist remarks were rude, my sincere apology, I myself am not young and should know better, I hate all ‘ists’ ,again I fail myself, but I am here to learn and never want to stop learning
Thank you for the lesson
Skid
what do you mean by the follow: i know ergo sum means something about i think therefore i am? but in this context, i'm slightly lost dear fellow
P.S. Lady Stutz and I took high tea with Mister Skidmarks
a fortnight ago, and as he is Swedish, he cannot be, ergo sum,
Canuck.
Oh boy, oh boy...this is delicious. Thanks to Mako and Canuck for providing the regurgitata for the starving birds.
I can now definitively link you boys together in the "know but not understand" nest. (Sorry RF, I am going way over your head here. You should just stick to your sound effects as they accurately reflect your thoughts and articulation.)
Mako- You have shown over and over again that you "read the abstract" but not the paper. This is what you and Canucklehead share. You really dished it out in your googled arguments about evolution. You represented the godless well, but your lack of understanding kept shining through. When I was an undergrad and had to research, there was a tendency in me and others to only read the Abstracts and/or the Results of someone else's research. This could be done often to expedite my paper. However, it came with a cost: not reading the full paper to gain the understanding that the experimenters had in mind, left me a bit short. Sure, I got their results, just not how they arrived. This is where you are: regurgitating other people's arguments (laced, of course, with bile) without understanding how you got there. You claim to know Right from Wrong...but, without the measuring stick, the Foundation of Absolutes, you are as lost a captainless ship with no compass.
Canuck- Having read some stupid pronouncements from you before, I am not surprised to read your distilled version of why the Civil War was fought. Whenever you write about anything, particularly regarding US History, I have to remind myself that you recently looked it up on google and/or are stating only the Abstract from someone else's research. You and Mako are true treasures. Honestly, you both had a Southern boy hand you your butts when discussing the Constitution. (Remember when you two couldn't understand plain English written by American farmers in the 1700's? Those were good times...good times.) And now, you do more of the same...no understanding.
Not a shame, really. You two have relegated yourselves to vying for smarts and popularity beween each other and Randull.
I was reminded recently that there is an inate desire in human beings to be accepted. If that acceptance is not grounded in something absolute, something Good, then human beings will do anything to fill that void. Hello Britney Spears. You two are really no different...seeking the approval of strangers, citing "majority" as some kind of rational argument, appealing to others for your beliefs...
It is still fun, though, and you boys are wonderful fodder.
Its mister Split personality! LOAO.. Your pathetic little Jabs are great, especially coming from someone who LIES as much as your self! You know nothing or very little on American history! So do us all a favor and keep the lies to those kids you pollute with your lies on how the world was created or the lies you spew on god and The scripture's.
You come on these threads as more then two people it now appears and then you swear that your not! but you consistently keep f*#@ng as you just did above! You have NO credibility, your a proven lier. You can take all the shots you want! No one cares! You LIE!!
Say all you want to about me , at least I haven't lied on this site yet about anything that mattered! You on the other hand do nothing but lie ! Look above you posted under your alias once again.
you Know what? forget you! your a waste of time on serious issues! No life experience no moral guidance. you arn't worthy enough to shine canucks boots or get his coffee let alone debate on here. Every time you do you get the verbal shit beat out of you every time on every level...LOLOLOL..Mako ,Canuck,Pod, Oh and Bug ,,He had a field day with you on the anther thread !!! your the JOKE and you don't even get it! Mister Smart guy !!! WHAT A F*
And Canuck I must disagree whit you on the tide turning in the american civil war. It seems you stated Mr.Lincoln's Emancipation proclamation only help a bit As far as preventing England from entering the war on the side of the CSA. What did however turn the tide dramatically in favor of the Grand Army of the Republic was if fact are president finely found a General that could fight and lead all at the same time. That man was Ulysses S Grant!
And you are right about Mr. Lincoln's comment. About that if he could preserve the Union and keep Slavery he would.BUT only to avoid the blood bath that he knew was to follow!
Canuck doesn't know what he's talking about anyway, as he just copies stuff from Wikipedia. He probably doesn't even know what color slaves were. Lincoln made his famous the "union over slavery" comments in 1862, 2 years into the war. The Emancipation proc was in 1863. But the war started right after Lincoln took office, in 1861. The South started it, over Lincoln's election, because it was a plank of the Republican platform that slavery be ended, There was no ticking clock, no schedule. The South said that if Lincoln were elected they'd secede, which they did, and then turned it into gunfire at Ft Sumner. That's point #1. Point #2, is that I did all that from memory, without consulting Google. Damn!
I wrote that all wrong! I ment to say that you stated or seem to state that Lincoln's Emancipation proclamation was the cause or main turning factor in that war yet in fact there were many that part playing a small factor!
The Emancipation proclamation had nothing to do with the war as it only freed slaves in Kentucky and Maryland, maybe Missouri, I can't remember. There;s all kinds of books out there. Read one. I'll even send you one of you'll send me a name/address.
Sorry to inform you peckerwood,, I have read, and own more books on the subject then you! So you should keep misinterpreting all you read , and then misinform all you tell about what you didn't understand!!
If this whole thing your doing, You know posting as several people and coming up with these strings of lies and whatnot are all part of some caricature you have come up w/ (something Mako suggested above) and you are in fact not who you claim. then I think your play acting has been great!! And congrats to you! But on the other hand if these are your true belief's and your actual thought of ideals, then you are perhaps the most misinformed and misled ignorant person i have ever had the displeasure of meeting ! And make no mistake! I have met my share of misfortunate misfits !
Lots of mis in there , so try not to miss the point!:
Shucks, Chummin, Ise been waiting around all day for a preemptory personal attack. Give it up! And whats with the Royal We jive? Fox Force Five, keepin us safe from rampaging dishonesty on the Internet highway? Pull me over, chump, and ask me for my license and regimastration. I aint got neither ossifer, dats the G-d's honest Truth! What am I for? Absolutely nothing. Dat aint opinion, dats a fact! Yo, Royal We, can ya make those cuffs any tighter? Take me in, baby, for violation of many codes, but I answered your question, and I had the right to remain silent! So cross coward and terror symp off the summons, and I'll use my one phone call to ring up de Lawd. Really. We mean it man. We love our Queen. God Save!
Chummin hitches his grey tight trooper pants up to just below his nipples, tightens the buckle on his utlity belt...adjusts his mirrored aviator sunglasses....
"Ah's a been waitin' aaal day for sumun like you ta come thru!" says Chum.
...Lord Stutz is leaning back resplendent on the ostrich and calf-hide seats of his slammed custom 60's Caddy. The wire wheels glint blinding bling in the sunlight, the flipped purple and clearcoat gleams beautifully...
Two stunning young ladies, Riza and Dixie are reclining lazily in the back seats, their cut off jean-shorts, bikini tops and flawles skin drawing Chum's eye... They smile and wrinkle their little button noses, giggling a little as Chum waddles to the Stutz's side of the vehicle.
"Hey 5.0, no sweat bruddah, we got here as fast we could homes..." Stutz responds, instantly knowing that in this redneck of the woods he must be careful...
Chum is not amused. You can tell by the way he flicks shut his little black ticket book. Things have clearly gone to another level...
" I hearby read you your Glumbert Miranda..."
You have the right to remain silent and refuse to answer questions. Alternatively you have right to spout as much utter bullshit as you want because contrary to what say, I cannot actually do anything about it, and more to the point other readers may find it funny. Do you understand?
Anything you do say may be never be used against you in a court of law. Because I am powerless to even apprehend let alone take you there. Do you understand?
You have the right to consult an attorney before speaking to Chummin and to have an attorney present during questioning now or in the future. Of course this is also frankly a waste of time because Chums questionning of 700 other cyber-perps has only received 5 answers so ignoring or abusing him is also an option available to you. Do you understand?
If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you wish, although in recognition of the fact that Chum can't actually do much, Glumbert state recommends an attorney moot and saving the cash preferable. Do you understand?
If you decide to answer questions now without an attorney present you will still have the right to stop answering at any time until you talk to an attorney or get bored and want to tell Chum to go hump a leg. Do you understand?
Knowing and understanding your rights as I have explained them to you, are you willing to answer Chum's questions without an attorney present?
Stutz leans around and smiles at his female companions who both, as one and almost imperceptibly, give a gentle nod of their heads....
Rizamoon removes her sunglasses, giving Chum a sultry look that makes him go weak at the knees... She leans forward, and as she does, gentle beads of perspiration appear on Chums ruby red cheeks.
Dixie still relaxes back in the sumptuous leather seats but lowers her shades down to the tip of her nose and looks appraisingly at Chum over the top of them... "Ok honey?" she drawls, "you wanna get dirty baby?"
Chum can hardly believe his luck, and whilst neither girl notices, he is conscious of a tightening in his jocks...He's never been in this situation before so like all men of his experience he can only whisper in a strange strangulated fashion, "....uuuh....nnng....yeah!"
"Ok baby, let's go!" says Riza.
Chum can't control himself... can this really be happening...oh my Gaaad!....nnng...aaaaah! He feels the pleasure of his first ever orgasm, swiftly followed by the pain and shame of realising it was premature...The stain instantly visible to all...
Stutz guns the motor, the 454 big block growls loud, the white wall tires bite gravel and, coincidentally, as the car's rear slides gently under the powerful acceleration, they also bite the large cowpat on the side of the road.
Chum is left standing dumbfounded and quivering, moth agape. The bovine feaces sprays him from top to bottom
As the Caddy fires into the distance, Riza and Dizie flash Chum and they race away.
Lord Stutz opens his refrigerated glove box, removes three glasses followed by a 95' Clos du Mesnil Krug kept for just this type of occasion.
Stutz, I'm more royal than you, that why. Thanks for the note, Mako. I'll keep my promise and fuck off, just keep it simple and stupid. You're doing a good job, it seems.
What in the Sam Hell are you babbling about you spewer!! This is what you wrote ass wipe
Chummins words!! "The Emancipation proclamation had nothing to do with the war as it only freed slaves in Kentucky and Maryland, maybe Missouri, I can't remember" I read you as saying it had "NOTHING"to do with the war! (nothing being the key word)
Your an Idiot! LOLOLOL!!! It had a lot to do with the war!!
Chum, don't mean to interject but I suspect there's a little miscommunication between you and the right honourable Stutz.
This stems from the fact that Earl Stutz is royal in style, wit and elegance.
Your self proclaimed branch of royalty, Chum, is entirely different to that of our resident Earl's. I assume the term 'royally stupid' is one you are all too familiar with?
if not, I am surprised especially given how valiantly your postings define it.
Mako, my man! How'd ya get hip to my ride? And the Krug is my holiday sip, but I dig dat bubbly the crazy monk dreamed up, so dem ol monks could cop a buzz. Good shit, in the green glass, know what I'm sayin?
These fokkers STILL don't get, that in spite of all of their/his posturing as being the "cops" of the INternet Highway.....they're STILL in the....c'mon...let's say all say it together........
M-I-N-O-R-I-T-Y.
I got Stream to admit one thing, though (and I think he fucked up without realizing it); he said:
"Honestly, you both had a Southern boy hand you your butts when discussing the Constitution."
A SOUTHERN BOYYYYY!!!!
Didn't I make an accurate call on this MONTHS ago?
All the xenophobic, racist, right-wing, close-minded, redneck, flag-fluttering, religious zealot SHIT is usually coming fom that neck of the woods.
I rest my case.
Zieg Heil, you pathetic Johnny Rebs.
Gen. Sherman was THE Man, and he bitch-slapped you but good.
One final note Tweedle-Dumb, and a note of gratitude to Stream. When i was in college some years ago I needed some dental work, being broke I went to the Univ dental school, where they had students work on you free. This second year guy from Cincinnati really messed up my mouth trying to do some simple root ccanals. To keep me from suing the university gave me a full free $10,000 makeover. But when I went in for the surgery, they ad a guy there with a camera. I asked why, and they said that it was rare anyone got to see such botched work, so i would be in next year's textbook. And I was. Cool. What this has to do with you is we have a consulting psychologist who thinks you're textbook material, too. We have to thank Streamline for this, but it does seem like every time he rings his bell, you salivate. There actually will be a book come out of some of these encounters. Streamline meet Pavlov, Ding-a-ling. Ding-a-ling. Canuck, meet Dog.
Hey Canuck I've got the fat suit on, found the 70s style spectacles...
Through proximity to Chummin I've even been able to replicate the stench of putrescence and decay Mr Falwell's corpse must be exuding. How's your Bush outfit coming along? C'mon dude - these guys need a hug quickly...
Ah....bless! C'mon Chummin don't be like that.... Come here.... there, there! Don't worry, it'll all be alright when you get back to Youtube.
Whilst we're a cuddlin' and a lovin' I'll admit something important to you.
WE ARE ALL SYMPS.
This sympathy is extreme in it's affliction of our very souls...Sorrow may even be a better word perhaps? I dunno.
Anyway. Please, please note our open and honest admittance of this fact.
Print it out. Pin it on your little cublicle wall alongside your rosettes and wargame badges. It'll look good there and will make your colleagues feel you are back on track...
But be aware of one important thing.
It is for both you and Streamy that we feel it. Very deeply.
NOT for terrorists.
PS - Job still going well? Looking at these threads it seems not... Never mind eh? Come back when you need another cuddle, or simply if you want further affirmation of your inabilities as a 'profiler'
Actually, you're all Chimps. Don't you know that? I'm just a visitor with free pass. Imagine a zoo and the monkey cage. When Stream can online ( I checked back...go and look yourself) you were all having a circle jerk, fuck-suck this, fuck-suck that, and picking fleas off one another. Because of Stream you tried getting serious and haven't stopped since. Randall is all of a sudden reciting his Illustrated Calssic version of the Civil War, you're writing poetry, Canuck (ding-a-ling, ding-a-ling) is searching Google for everything he can find to prove a point no one cares about, Pod is going suicidal because he can't just enjoy and cuteness of the moment, most everyone else has just quit visiting, and Stutz wants me leave ...which to accomplish all you have to do is quit talking to me. I'm just a visitor to zoo and you're the chimps. Quit asking me to feed you and i won't feed you. Go back to "Fuck-suck, circle-jerk." You're the ones in the cage, not me. Do you honestly think I'm trying to convince any of you of a single thing? (Actually I have, but that may not dawn on you until you finally reach puberty.) i'm just out here taking notes. Duhhh!
Hey guys I believe in all that has fought for us,and you are tough.Just stop with the childless stuff! You guys have had it hard no matter what, I thank you so much what you have done! :)
Well guys this certainly has revealed more about how extremist mental pathology expresses itself in the modern age. Who new that the Gods of Chum were judging and testing us for acceptance into their world.
Since I was judged quickly by the Gods of Chum as a terror-symp way back in the Angry American thread, I can say what ever I want now. I will say that this group's writing is expressed very much like all anti-social terror groups. They are protecting their world from all those who think, or express opinions that challenge their belief system. It is expressed, that they do not admire creativity, humor, or individuality.
Since reading their manifesto and the other dark expressions of this group, I must profess that if this is a expression of Gods word into actions of faith, then they are worshiping the wrong deity in my opinion. I know what I believe, and have felt from the spiritual force of the world, and it has nothing in common to the darkness that is expressed by this 'group'. I also will not justify or explain myself to this 'group', as my belief system does not allow me to present myself to be judged by mere men who believe themselves to be Gods.
They have no understanding of humor or satire, but understand hate and lies! I advise caution when engaging the hosts of darkness for they seem to believe they are legion. They are on a crusade to remove humor and goodness from our world and bring on the darkness and hate.
As for my being judged by this group as not meeting their specifications, I'm am very pleased, and I will continue to walk in the light, and I turn my back to their attempts to peddle their crusade for the darkest aspects of human nature.
Somebody's gotta blow the whistle and throw the flag. As Mako once said, the internet is great cause you can't do a thing about it.
You get to come out here and lie about things I believe in, so I get to come out here and tell the truth about you. That's how it works.
It's America's fault. If I recall, that's your template, isn't it? Elitists have encroached on the only spot you have left to let off steam cause the government won't pave your driveway. Just keep whining. Tt's the whining that shows we've already won what we wanted to win. Now you can go back to your sandbox with the other girls and play. I promise to stay in the background.
I speak for myself , I may not be bright company! I sure am a funny guy, and I am company!
Unlike yourself who makes up pretend comrades to share Neanderthal opinions ! And I don't brag on about how great I am, while lying about knowing All things when in actuality its quite the opposite! do go on thoe!
What in the Sam Hell are you babbling about you spewer!! This is what you wrote ass wipe
Chummins words!! "The Emancipation proclamation had nothing to do with the war as it only freed slaves in Kentucky and Maryland, maybe Missouri, I can't remember"
I read you as saying it had "NOTHING"to do with the war! (nothing being the key word)
Your an Idiot! LOLOLOL!!! It had a lot to do with that war!!
That's right. It didn't free a single slave in the Confederacy. The Yankee army did. Sorry you can't read, or understand. I tried, that's all i can do. You're confused.
After Mr. Lincoln passed the Emancipation proclamation It was no longer legal for Slave catchers to bring slaves that had escaped to the north back to wherever the writ happened to be from! Just because a war was on does not mean the law just up n changed by its self,NO! The practice of retuning runaway slaves back to the south was still in full swing even while the war was on! If you had paper and they were legal, then you were free to travel back and forth plying your trade! You starting to get it now knucklehead!! lLOLOLOL!!! Hence The passing of Mr. Lincoln's Emancipation proclamation!! Thus makeing it Illegal and giving the Army the right to apprehend any man woman or child perusing ill gotten wealth through slave trading!!!
Now you think you see why your comments are so wrong ? It had a lot to do w/ the war! I just think it didn't have a lot to do with the tide turning in the war!! P.S You are an ASS !! LMFAOOOOOO!!!!
Sorry, Pardner, you're getting wronge every time you open your keyboard. As your mates say about the internet, there's nothing you can do about it but stomp your feet, paw at the grund, and ask your buddies to vote with you. There's nothing you can do to make me stupid, just as there's nothing I can do to make you smart. Like I said, it was test question in almost all college courses.
Nice rebuttal..proving you were spanked by your better in that little argument!
Yes I noticed your answer to my response was rather about .......Nothing... I guess you saw how messed up your thinking and your misinformation was, so you come back w/ ....what??LOLOLOL!! ...Idiot....LOL!
Once again You know very little about our American civil war, so try learning your own country's history instead of this ones!!
You're the one who screwed the pooch, Pal. If I had any respect for you at all, I'd maybe go the library and double check. But you're a clown, so this is the downside of being one when you want people to take you serious. I know what I know, and i know you think you know what you know. But I know better. too bad. Moral outrage doesn't look good a clown.
You know your wrong so try and be a bit of a man here and fess up!
You said something that was so stupid that grade school kids would look at you like you had two heads!!
No grey area here! Only right and wrong ! You are the latter. And if anyone is stomping there feet then it must be you!
All anyone has to do is READ about What it is there talking about and PRESTO,WHOOP dare it is!! LOLOL!!
What I wrote was about history, and its all in BOOKS so A smart collage boy like yourself(snicker) could just look it up!!!
PROVE ME WRONG !! You cant because I'm not LOLOL!
I'm right and you are wrong!! And the best part of this whole thing is ,, You Know it! Or else you would prove me wrong instead of your meandering , boring not to leave out droning garbage about your so called collage ed: your insipidness says it all !
Bring it!! show me I'm wrong about how the Emancipation proclamation had nothing to do w/ the american civil war!! LOLOLOL!!
Surely you must know by know that RF need do nothing at all to make you look stupid. This is a solo flight and you manage only too well by yourself.
Always have, always will.
I think the promise of vacuous stupidity and pointlessness in every single posting is rather a masochistic mission statement to work to. But, hey, kudos, at least you stand firmly by it.
And boy oh boy, do you deliver.
Your beloved neo-con paymasters have certainly trained you well. Mind you the instructions are easy:
Press "Post"
Prove pig ignorance
Little Chumpy - you frost no one's ass, but make rather a nice hot air blower
Sorry to pop your little ego balloon there. I'm sure your colleagues will guide you through your troubles. Hey, if you're really lucky maybe Ivana will dab away your tears of frustration as she holds you close to her comforting bosom!
Apologies for the presumption Ivana. I've no doubt Chopin, however badly played, is infinitely preferable to any proximity with your little trainee. But as they say, patience is a virtue and he will no doubt provide a fine test of yours.
Glumbert collectively owns you I'm afraid bunnykins. That's why you can't tear yourself away.
As we can see from the response. I have written the truth and It is up to them to cast judgment that I am a lier. Because they are cowards. Has everyone noticed that the Gods of Chum never state a opinion on a video. They do not have the courage of conviction to state a opinion, just remarks in response to the opinions of others. Like jackals they show up only to feed after the fact.
Their Kaczynski like writings of being the policemen of the internet, and their crusade against the world of terror-simp's is a manifestation of a deeply disturbed disassociation with society. They write in hope of garnering followers and praise, and only stir the general public in the hope of engaging in anti-social discourse. It is necessary for them to do this as a means of re-enforcing their world view, and finding fellow followers. They have already admitted in these threads that they have committed felonious acts of terrorism, and proudly stated that they have not been caught for these crimes. Yet they hold themselves up as the moral benchmark for the rest of the uninformed world!
Their fascination and constant regurgitation of the terror-simp label, is also another form of re-enforcing of a view that they hold themselves. Like all those who express extreme views against a thing, do to wash themselves of the guild brought about from the thing they are in fact doing.
They might be a collection of teenagers just baiting and goofing around in their mom's basement, and re-enforcing their anti social rhetoric with each other, but we have seen in the recent weeks, events that paranoid psychosis such as they express can and is a reason for concern.
I thought Mako was the Little Rascals' Club philosopher. Which of you is the wannabe?
I can see you're on your knees, but who are you pleading to? Or for? You talking to the world at large? Do I need to call the suicide hotline?
I just explained the world to you, Darling, that's all. If you'd had a dad he would have years ago, unless he was bad one. In that case, too badm but you gotta play with the hand your dealt. But Moms never do explain the world. Thta why we're here, in part, too many "mere males" where men ought to be.
But, no matter, we are here and we ain't going to go away. Now, as promised, you can gleefully romp thru the woods with mindless prattle about whatever, and I'll just sit back and watch, amused. Lie about something I think is important (your opinions are your own...just know what one is) and I'll take all the oxygen out of your party. I'll have you chin on your chest just like it is now. Welcome to The American Democracy, Darling If you want to bitch about America in private, call these girls up on text-message or Instant Message. But if you want to stand on a public soap-box and do it, be sure you're right. Then go ahead. (Davy Crockett said that). Because I'll be in the audience.
Oh, and do keep musing in that little whiny tone. Ivana is thinking about putting it to music. She plays the piano...Chopin mostly.
Pod,,Your most likely right on your profile, And their some silly little kids.
No matter good stuff you convinced me to ignore him and if i should respond only to give what worthy of the comment. I have a poker game to go to,so I'm off!
R - Ignoring them is good thing for all of us to do. We should not re-enforce a dissociative psychosis, because you never know what they might be driven to do next.
We're trying our damndest to ignore you, or are you too oblique to figure that out? Getting an attaboy from Randall is like a Nobel Prize, right? You really need to stop and take stock.
Nicely expressed there Pod, can't help thinking it's wasted on our little chum though.
That said I’ve got loads of time to waste as I’ve spent the weekend in a lovely hotel I have cold beer to hand and a desire to jot. It will round the weekend off nicely so here goes…
The Party land of Glumbert has no border controls and even the most dysfunctional sociopaths are able to muck spread here. Most are magnanimous in acceptance of this porous border.
It is both joy and shame.
Chum seems to know little of joy but certainly seems to know shame; hence his “colleagues” need to reign him in, and the subsequent ‘partial apology’.
As he says, he is here to stay so I suggest we simply deal with it accordingly - by roasting and toasting his ignorance whenever he steps out of line as he pathetically attempts to do with us. If current form is anything to go by, this sadly seems to occur most times he posts.
So, to continue the analogy of Glumbert as a raucous party (can’t remember who said this before but it’s a nice one), with all kinds of people in attendance. Humor, free flowing wine, spirited argument, crudity, debasement and escapism is the apparent mantra…
Now we all know that even at the best of parties there’s always some character who, when conversation and fun is at full flow, interrupts with some fuckwitism that stops the chat. Dead. No one can ignore it. The perpetrator is normally unaware of his faux pas, lacking the social skills to compute his error. He is the epitome of the pitiful partygoer.
Now in REAL LIFE an uncomfortable silence ensues, people's eyes shifting nervously amongst one another. The initial feeling amongst the guests is of cringe-worthy embarrassment on behalf of the poor guy…But then, inexplicably, he CONTINUES…That initial embarrassment then turns to incredulity, “Is he for real?”
Finally, after the it has become apparent there are no redeeming features to this poor chap, the mood turns, some feel hostile some sympathetic but uncomfortable. People collectively realize just how pathetic and socially maladjusted he is.
Now again in REAL LIFE, events could unfold in a number of ways. More refined gatherings may see a socially aware bystander come and guide our errant idiot gently away. A shrug of the shoulders, a wry smile and a roll of the eyes, “He’s had a little too much to drink”, that kind of thing…
Other less refined events might see him punched in the solar plexus, or an ashtray slammed in his face. In the unlikely event of receiving an invite to Randall and Used Douche’s do below, it could even manifest itself in sodomy and gang rape. Chum would you prefer socket or plug?
The possibilities are endless but ultimately the problem is removed and festivities continue with no more than some throwaway remarks about the turd that turned in from the cold…
Now THIS thread has seen something strange happen! In some weird freak occurrence, real life and the cyber world have mysteriously merged. Our pitiful partygoer has manifested herein. The turd did not go home and instead has stumbled into Glumbert mumbling something about being authoritative.
I think we all know who this strange little creature is…
Thus we must welcome him here with some suggestions and observations that may help him:
Cum-Chin,
Glumbert is not real life. At least you conceded this in postings before, but for some reason you continue to wail away as if you think you’ll have any effect on what is said here; you have none, nor will you ever. Sorry. By all means though do continue. This must be what YOU are for.
Now UNLIKE real life, at the Glumbert party there is clearly NO uncomfortable silence when an idiot appears and trumpetingly defecates authority status.
Chum you will surely agree with this - you’ve allowed ample opportunity to see this you every time you post. Claiming omnipotence whilst demonstrating impotence is not a good way to live life. Some more omega 3 in the diet perhaps?
At the Glumbert party there is clearly NO respect for ANY self perceived authority, ESPECIALLY one that claims it as loudly as you whilst offering zip in terms of humor or insight.
In common with real life though, we DO feel deeply embarrassed on your behalf chum.
However we won’t just usher you away, we’ll fuck with you instead ok?
Sorry Chum I know you really, really hate hearing that your electronic postings carry all the weight and negativity of an electron. Just the way it is.
I know…I know… you're gonna change that, you're the big, bad judge. Sorry little guy but you’re just not really up to it. Dem’s da breaks. I know it’s tough so try and recall how you felt and dealt with your promotion to “Colonel” being refused. Use that feeling and work through it…suck it up buddy. We’re there for you.
On the positive side, working as hard as you’ve done to end up as Mr Zero shows admirable tenacity. Ivana will be proud – she might even let you tickle her ivories.
At the Glumbert party you’ll see we’ve taken it upon ourselves to be fair and equitable.
This means we will probably ALL rip the living piss out of most of your posts as we do each others.
I trust this gives you that special feeling of inclusion and also the realization that whatever you say, none of us frankly give a shit whenever you say it.
We know for you this is a job. Don’t let it get to you. We're not really in the business of caring, just as you are clearly not in the business of knowing.
It seems your preferred MO is as voyeur. This is fine. Dogging is apparently a popular pastime in some countries, you no doubt excel. Pop up and ‘stink’ whenever you see fit - if it works for you, and the cap fits etc…
In truth, with the vids sometimes of questionable quality, a fart like you appearing mid-thread provides welcome, if low brow, relief.
Obviously in the interests of hygiene, I hope you understand we will continue to burn that stink off whenever it turns the atmosphere poisonous.
So in reality not much will change..........
The Glumbert party will continue; the weird, boring and generally useless or unpleasant will be ushered to the margins where they know their place.
But Chum, as you are all these things and so, so much less we’ll make a special exception for you.
I for one will probably ignore you the majority of time. Or not. Depending on how factual YOUR facts are when you tap your little gavel. Or I may just hurl abuse at you. Or bare faced lies. Who knows eh? It’ll be fun though.
Streamy can show you where the guacamole dip is. You and he’ll get along fine and may even strike up a conversation if you can pry him away from your genitalia long enough to have him speak without his mouth full.
Welcome and enjoy!
So guys, from all who own him and love him, can we all please raise a big glass of fizzy to:
"Chum - our new Authoritative Residential Special Expert - UP YOURS”
(PS hope you like the title, we’ll put the acronym on a little badge for you to pin on your cubicle)
1-The Emancipation proclamation had nothing to do with the war as it only freed slaves in Kentucky and Maryland, maybe Missouri, I can't remember! (bit of a oxymoron)lol It had nothing to do w/ the war! It only freed Slaves! LMFAOOOOOO!!!!
2-That's right. It didn't free a single slave in the Confederacy. The Yankee army did. Sorry you can't read, or understand. I tried, that's all i can do. You're confused. (the Yankee army)hmmm..sounds like someone's idea of history is Gone with the Wind!
3-You just proved you hadn't read very much, pal. The 13th Amendment, not the Emancipation Proc freed the slaves...It was in all the papers.
(all the papers you say!!) lol .. what papers are you referring ?? the New York post,Washington Herald?LOLOLOLOL
To All: I have grown weary of this prattle. Might we all cease? Let Mister Chummin and his mysterious cohorts take their dubious conceits elsewhere, and God Speed to them. Engaging these louts in reasoned argument has proven futile. Please consider my plea, as I am old and frail, and this endless bickering threatens the already fragile state of my nerves. I thank you.
I notice Johnnny Reb up above mentioned "Nobel Prize";
Seeing as how Al Gore just won the most recent Nobel Peace Prize (to go along with his Oscar), I guess this means that the position of "President of The United States" would make him.......
All in all I reckon it would simply make him the absolute antithesis of all that Chummin stands for.
Not sure Streamy would like it much either. After all those Nobel prizes are all rigged and his Oscar can't be valid because man-made climate change is myth perpetrated by left wing media.
Seems in his (young) world it would be better to stick with a dumb arse like Bush - one knows where one stands when your president's at the bottom of the stupid hole with you.
Right again, He is the very antithesis of what I stand for. Like Canuck, he's a liar for starters. Even the British school system knows that. i can see why you'd like him. But I do hope he runs....if it's validation you want.
You hit the nail on the head...of course, without knowing it, as usual. I like all the reasons Bush went to war in Iraq, and could add a couple of my own. But on other issues, he goes down in my book every day. Point is, I don;t have to lie to say why I like or dislike Bush...You do. But whay are you asking me this? I keep being invited away, then asked questions? So i copy here a reply from above:
Actually, you're all Chimps. Don't you know that? I'm just a visitor with free pass. Imagine a zoo and the monkey cage. When Stream can online ( I checked back...go and look yourself) you were all having a circle jerk, fuck-suck this, fuck-suck that, and picking fleas off one another. Because of Stream you tried getting serious and haven't stopped since. Randall is all of a sudden reciting his Illustrated Calssic version of the Civil War, you're writing poetry, Canuck (ding-a-ling, ding-a-ling) is searching Google for everything he can find to prove a point no one cares about, Pod is going suicidal because he can't just enjoy and cuteness of the moment, most everyone else has just quit visiting, and Stutz wants me leave ...which to accomplish all you have to do is quit talking to me. I'm just a visitor to zoo and you're the chimps. Quit asking me to feed you and i won't feed you. Go back to "Fuck-suck, circle-jerk." You're the ones in the cage, not me. Do you honestly think I'm trying to convince any of you of a single thing? (Actually I have, but that may not dawn on you until you finally reach puberty.) i'm just out here taking notes. Duhhh! Cheers, Girls.
It boggles my mind at how these bed-sheet covered assholes have enough time to post on here, while having to attend their cross-and-book burning rallies.
Another great reason for the northern "Blue States" to jettison the whole lot of this trash, and join us up here (it'd sure make for better hockey, at any rate).
A.R.S.E, we're only kicking you gently at the moment so resorting to cut and pastes of previous posts is a little premature. Save that for when you totally spit the dummy.
You stated an apparent fact - that Gore is a lier.
Some substantiation of your statement of fact is required.
Do give some or you merely prove the point that you are exactly what you profess to protect against. A liar. And dumb. The latter won't change, sorry, but at least you can prevent yourself being permanently labeled with the former
Answer the question:
Why do you feel Gore lies to any greater extent that your current dumb-idol Bush?
Illustrated Calssic (sic)? Surely you mean Classics Illustrated, who, as a matter of FACT, never published a condensed version of The War of Southern Aggression. You LIE. Even your uncouth sarcasm can not escape idiocy and untruth. Since your truculent refusal to cease your balderdash was expressed with an adolescent grunt, I am forced to take sterner measures. My associates in the Special Boat Service have been alerted . Stategy to "take out" your persistent tantrums is being devised as we speak. You have been hereby forewarned.
No, Podman, Sanchez has an opinion(s) based on personal knowledge and beliefs. You don't . You're a monkey in cage who merely apes what others tell you. Sanchez doesn't want America to lose, or Americans to die in vain. In your heart of heart, I think you do.
Soooooooo......the fact that Gen. Sanchez's opinions are "based on personal knowledge and beliefs" AND being as how those opinions/beliefs jibe with the MAJORITY on these threads (as well as with the MAJORITY of the Anmerican public).....what excactly is YOUR little fucked up group basing ITS beliefs/opinions on? We've already established that it sure as fuck ain't "personal knowledge" or even experience.
Could it be based on simple, sheer stupidity? Or blatant ignorance?
This is probably (no promises) my last posting on this thread to you as you're boring now. You'll no doubt skulk off until you've regained your senses, brought another little book of sarcasm and let Ivana collect all your hurled toys. Must be un-nerving to see how fallible that book of barbs has proven? You clearly never read anything more
Whilst by now I fully accept you as a witless hypocrite, I guess it's only right to give you one last chance.
Two questions:
Q1 explain how the war in Iraq is LEGAL under international law?
Q2 explain why Gore is a bigger liar than Bush, or indeed any other politician?
Now honestly, I don't believe you can bring yourself to do it, but swallow some calpol, a little pride, and try.
Obviously I've no need to warn you that allowing TRUTHFUL answers to what's been asked will nullify all you've said, and all you're apparently for.
This is not a worry; your God can forgive you your failings. We'll obviously take the piss but in the end you'll come out better for it.
I know it's tough to take that first baby step so I'll help give you the IRREFUTABLY TRUTHFUL answer to Q1:
A. The invasion and occupation of Iraq IS WITHOUT DOUBT ILLEGAL under international law.
Piss and moan, throw sarcasm, attempt to divert all you like... Kofi Annan really has jurisdiction on this one, not you. His turds carry more weight and truth than anything you have or ever will produce.
There is no media bias here, no agenda. Just his words verbatim:
WHEN ASKED WHETHER THE WAR IN IRAQ WAS ILLEGAL, KOFI ANNAN, THE UNITED NATIONS SECRETARY GENERAL SAID:
"I have indicated it was NOT in conformity with the UN charter. From our point of view and from the charter point of view IT WAS ILLEGAL"
Not in your world I know A.R.S.E.
Your world is a little grey cubicle so I guess there's little chance of acknowledgment on the legality point, your ego appears more easily bruised than most. However in keeping with my promise to fuck with you I know it irks you so badly to see it writ large.
Your failure to acknowledge your earlier untruth that the UN actually SANCTIONED the invasion not only makes you stupid.
It also makes you the liar.
Any last chance of redeeming yourself with an attempt at answering the second question? Failure at this does not make you a liar.
It makes you a coward.
Now about that shrink you have in the office...have a chat with them about psychological projection.
It may lift a weight.
You'll be without the need to constantly crow the two words which have ultimately proven to define you perfectly. Remember, this isn't real life.
Oh, forgot...for you it IS.
But it's dealable with, just be a man about it. Sure, your colleagues may have a gentle smirk on their faces but maybe they'll forgive. Sadly, it seems you'll forever fuck up.
Impotence is all you're really for. Along with cowardice and untruth of course
Toodle-pip. Look forward to sitting on you again at some point
Just checking in, Tweedle-Dumbest. I just read the good general's comments, interesting. Bet you didn't. His opinion is barely in the 40% range of public opinon, yours not even double digits. I like my position...i came to it without being told to, Ding-a-ling, ding-a0ling, Woof woof. You go, Dog.
Mako, Sorry I missed your terminal opus. Glad you feel better finally having come up with as scheme that allows you to convince yourself that you are not just a monkey aping others' minds, but a real man.
The war in Iraq in not illegal, never has been and quite frankly, can't be undone by law or judges. The UN sanctioned the invasion, and has not undone it. Moreover, both Clinton and Bush said the UN had no jurisdiction over American national security policy, anyway. The "international law" you refer to is one you only dream of, and which will only occur when lawyers have guns bigger that armies...which will occur about the same day you grow a penis. It's the law as you wish it to be, not as it is...but it does expose the fact the Scarlett O'Hara foot-stomping teat fit in you girls does not die easily. If it's illegal get a court to say so, other than some magistrate in Chelsea. The reason you can't is because only half-witted dolts are saying it is, and they (you included) don't have the brainpower to get a petition ever read by a judge, much less acted on.
You're trying to make a legal argument over a moral issue. The "legality" of the war is a legal issue, not a moral one (hence word "legal") ...and there is no legal case here. You want to argue it morally, do so...only here's the rub, you don't seem to have any. That's what seems to draw you to this monkey cage. You have to make this seem like a legal case as you are real weak on moral issues of any kind because they take you down a road of moral certitudes you don't want to go. It's like a guy who realizes he's gay. he immediately become promiscuous, rub-a-dub-dub, three men in a tub...because he knows there are no longer any rules. Monkeys are promiscious, too. That's why you're in the monkey cage with all these other witless wonders...no rules.
No, Pal, you couldn't even argue morality with a mongrel dog. You painted yourself into a corner yourself and can't get out, and are whining because the rest of the world won't accept your "legal" take on things.
As for Gore vs Bush lies, I can only mention Gore's gratuitous lies, such as having invented the internet and having been the subject of "Love Story". His global warming lies are more sinister in that he quotes some scientific opinions as facts, but worse, quotes scientists who have denied his interpretation of their work. These are grievous lies. That's not my field, but i do know that much.
As for Bush, I'm still waiting for the first Bush lie to be proved...without you or anyone else (Canuck is better at this sort of clairvoyance than you) first being able to say you know what was in his heart when he said or did it. The fact you think you can "just feel" another's intentions is the most childish form of self-love. I really think you don't know the difference between being wrong and lying...and being stupid. That's why I don't debate you, or other tiny minds. Like now, I just sit here and make observations, unless at your beckoning, I make few comments, which I still don't understand, since you want me gone to much.
I tried to draw you to find out what you believe and to see if you can build on that...but that lasted about 8-9 lines. I think that's all you have. The rest is petty vanity. I don't debate liars, and I don't debate stupid people. I will debate a coward, but he generally proves himself to a liar or stupid soon enough, so it all works. I keep saying this and you keep missing it. Talk among yourselves and I'll just watch with my notepads. .Everything I say here is for all those other people out there...not you. Trust me, i could care less about changing your mind on anything. It was a surprise (to me at least...Chumm said it would happen) that we could so easily change your behavior, but take a look at yourself. You're all clowns and monkeys and all of a sudden you want someone to take you seriously? Scroll up and see why not even your Mum would take you seriously if she read your bilge. I'm not in your 7th Grade PE class ...which you all seem never to have graduated from..white boy, Funky Winterbeans doing the dozens because that's all you got. Homey don't play dat. Cordially, Girls
Riza using an expression from Bug. Flat Earthers Have opinions close to those who flew planes in to the World Trade Center! And these Knuckle Draggers would like nothing better then to destroy what they don't understand! Or,,, It could be just that! Posturing.
Yo, my Glum homies! Chummin gave up the down low- if we quit jammin with his squarejohn jive he swears he'll take his little ball and go home to Mommy. Cold shoulder, baby. Straight up!
I found something that really explains The Carlysle Group here, and why Al Gore drives right-wing fanatics like them absolutely berserk (namely people/persons like he/she/they/it):
Gore for President
Technoviking for Sec Def (keep him on exctasy though...)
Oddo for dealing with amoeba like Chum
Streamy can apply for role of Education Secretary...his request will be dealt with as evenly as possible
If it was up to left wing Liberals to protect the nation and the free world we would all be slaves to Saddam, Hitler or any other dictator that ran through neighborhood by now. Spinless wimp pansies. Freedom isn't free, get that straight. Argue the point all you want, it does not change a thing.
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