they have since gone into the service and are being enlightned in Iraq. Not that I would wish that on anyone.
Intresting story by Donald Kaul on MCCain @ www.minutemanMedia.org he is a Pulitzer prize losing correspondent.
We don't have News in the US anymore...We have tabloid TV shows, spewing the meaningless crap that brain dead, McDonald's fed, Americans eat up. It's all they can understand and digest anymore.
Give 'em hell, Mike! "Faux" news is forever taking people out of context and I wouldn't doubt they'd have treated Jezuz as a rabble rouser at best or a traitorous terrorist. Remember, USA founders were traitors to the Crown.
(Totally off topic, I thought I'd have a job by today when I told my ex-boss to get some one else's chain to yank last week. The hall is full of guys waiting to work. I might have to go scab.)
chuck I have 3 projects ready for the bid room, all waiting on the mass house to approve a bond bill that's been in front of them for more than a yr. Good luck, what's your trade?
Dump truck driver/small equipment operator (skidsteers and the like, anything bigger and I'd run afoul of the operating engineers, they still hold a lot of power here in Chicago metro area)
IL's gov. Blago (can't spell his full name) lost $7 billion (yep, with a "b") in Fed highway funds 'cause he didn't have a budget with matching funds together by the deadline. The only thing keeping a few companies in business right now is that the TollRoad has it's own budget.
(Totally off topic in another direction- another site where the comments are as good or better than the posts{thought the post are damned good} damninteresting.com, gets into some strange history, science, medical news and social phenomena.)
You know that's true pod, my dad was killed in WWII and I didn't get any healthcare, my mother had to go to work in a plastic factory in Leominster, MA and ride the bus 2 hrs a day. We did get a flag and the purple heart.
I was 4mos old
The interesting think about what McCain said on this issue is that it reminded me of Marie-Antoinette when asked what the poor should do when they have no bread to eat.
I am disappointed. I was waiting for the big black dude to go ape shit on the reporter or something, now that's owned! This to me this was an argument with one side being well prepared and articulate and the other not quite so much. He said / she said back and forth quarrels are both futile and wearisome. BTW who's this Dr. King fellow??
the so-called priest is selectively ignoring many things that reverend (???) wright has said.....how can you just ignore some facts and play hardball with the others.....looks like the so-called priest is full of beans and is not playing with a completely full deck
I saw the ENTIRE speech that Rev. Wright gave, and didn't just pay attention to one snippett of it, like "Faux News" and the Republican Party faithful do. There ws nothing "anti-American" or "racial" about it whatsoever.
Back in the days of the Soviet Union, they too, had a "official" newspaper; it was called "Pravda". All that was in it, was what the COMMUNIST PARTY DECIDED went in it. Now...."Faux News"? Same goddamn thing. THE SAME. Studies have already shown, that "Faux News" is nothing more than an adjunct of the Republican Party. Five freakin' minutes of Bill O'Leilly or Sean Dipshit Hannity will be enough to convince you of that.
And if it dosen't......
maybe YOU ain't "playing with a full deck".
"Ignoring facts" and playing "hardball with others"....is THEIR specialty.
apparently, then, both canuck and mimic are guilty of the same thing that you are accusing fox news of....i.e. name calling and selective recall....come on guys, your political leanings are completely obscuring your ability to rationally look at the situation.....mccain says stupid things....clinton says stupid things.....obama says stupid things.....just admit it like a rational person rather than stoop to name calling...you are taking a very serious subject and playing with it like high school sophomores
And yes, McCain says stupid things (long proven history of it)....Clinton says stupid things (again...long proven history of it)....Obama says.....what? Stupid things? Yeah? Name one (in its PROPER context, of course).
I find it quite silly you sit there an accuse ME of the things Faux News does...especially after I JUST TOLD YOU that I saw that speech by Rev. Wright in its ENTIRETY...and I'm TELLING YOU...based on that....Faux News is blatantly WRONG and have a HISTORY of being WRONG).
I agree, his content is poor though he makes it sound like he is saying something meaningful. But isn't that true -and a requirement- of any religious leader?
The priest is a socialist and I hope he gets excommunicated. BUT, he'd fit right in here at Glumbert
All you libs on here hate Fox News. It's pretty funny to see you folks froth. I wonder why so many people watch Fox and don't watch your lib bs, like your patron saint, Keith Olbermann. What's he got, like 6 or 7 watchers?
you say that "everything" fox news (not faux news as your name calling political views cause to incorrect say) reports on is "false"?
EVERYTHING?
even the ball scores? gosh, i better turn to espn....
even the election results? gosh, i better turn to dan rather.....
even the weather? gosh, i just don't know where to turn....
DON'T use all inclusive terms when you they don't apply.....this is what an irrational person does.....unless, of course, you feel that you are irrational (saying obama never says stupid things comes real, real close to being irrational as he is every bit a programmed as the others).
canuck.....listen to yourself in your all-inclusive terms and reverse the subject and object....you begin to sound like hitler or hussein...not a rational person who supposedly has correctly arbitrated an entire sermon of a person who is clearly marketing himself to audience (i.e. wright is saying the things that his demographic wants to hear---but are they factual or are they just intended to hate monger for a better collective plate on sundays?)
hey canuck - why does Fox have more audience than all of your lamer lib programs combined? Everyone is stupid, but you, right?
Keith Olberman can't seem to sell his liberal diatribes to anyone. How come? How come he's got one of the smallest audiences? How come Air America keeps going tits up?
How come the NY Times circulation is dropping like a rock?
Everyone that watches Fox has a low IQ? Is that the best you can come up with?
Fr. Michael Pfleger of St. Sabina's on Chicago's South Side is a throwback "radical" priest of the 60's-70's mode. He's leading pushes against guns, tobacco advertising, gang violence and many other causes. While I don't agree with his stance on a lot of issues, he does, indeed, rock!
(Has anyone looked up the full text of Wright's sermons? I can't base my opinion on soundbites, edited through the media, to damn this guy or a member of his congregation. )
The only people full of beans are the ones who base opinions on limited information.
sorry canuck, we were typing at the same time. Just curious, how is the Canadian media reporting the election? oh btw congrats on the medal you got, was the dinner any good or just rubber chicken?
do you know how many kids die each day from guns in chicago, how about last night. guns are for protection and hunting, not for kids in a gang. Gunlaws don't work, bad people don't give a shit about laws. the solution is any crime with a weapon= death or make bullits $10,000.
26 or 27 kids dead this year in "gang related" violence in the city, thirty shootings over the weekend (if Friday is counted) six fatal. I'm not sure what solution is, maybe $5K bullets like Chris Rock said. But then what about those who eat the animals they shoot?
"Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?"
Thanks dude! Dunno about the "rubber chicken dinner"...(LOL!).....I ain't had it yet....it's on May 13th.
As for the media up here, they don't buy into the flag-waving hype that Faux News does; most of the news outlets up here tend to give you just that.....news. Trust me.....wearing a goddamn lapel pin has NEVER been an issue up here, like it has on a lot of the U.S. stations. THis is why it irks me to no end, when I see some of these nutty "news anchors" down there give Obama a bad rap for it, and literally make an damn issue out of nothing.
mimic, why punish the many for the bad deeds of a few? Do you have any idea how many bullets I "use" in year? Thousands! Not a one of them found human flesh!
Canuky It's the same in a mosque in Canada ,he saith they follow. Believe me all religions have their dark side. Why ,man created them , and man follows . We all come out of the same hole and most all go back into a hole after their last breath.
I am not a defender of religion, (see my posts under "bad day at the museum) but they can be agents of change, for good as well as ill. In the words of Rodney King, "Why can't we all just get along?"
"Because sometimes nothing satisfies the soul like bloodying the nose of some idiot who really needs it!"
richshin, or should I say (Streamlined) Show me where I called you a name?? Please show me. Calling you a bushite is saying you're a bush supporter! Let me remind you stream/rich, that When I first logged on to this site you had to make a rude comment to me that I laughed off and let slide.
Now as I look closer I see that you are Streamlined. Same form of writing and same all around Arrogance!
please try and remember calling you arrogant is not calling you names, It bringing to your attention a fact of a personality flaw that seems to emanate from your posts!
Oh, And anyone ...I mean anyone would be better in the white house then the Monkyes who currently reside there!
Fr. Michael Pfleger...apart from his stance on gun control i agree with everything he has said.... as far as news goes...there is none. when's the last time we had any real news from afghanistan. who the hell knew that 320,000 GI's have received significant brain trauma in the Islamic State of Iraq....... are people aware of the growing problem of starvation in egypt, haiti and africa, and the first worlds complicity from speculation and the haibrained scheme of distilling fuel from corn embraced by gwbush (and institutionalized by the u.s. congress), or that every major news organization was complicit in misleading the american people into the iraq war .... there are only 4 real news outlets and they have all conceded to the power of the fedral government. fox news doesn't scare me ....guys like anderson cooper scare me ...guys who seem reasonable intelligent and fair, but who in fact are former CIA employees(Cooper) and somehow never seem to report any real news .... or wolf blitzer major CNN spokesman and former AIPAC employee or all the myriad of retired generals who are nothing more than paid government stooges and are violating the trust that the public falsely believes they deserve ...these are the guys who are scary fox news is only believed by the lunatic fringe.... the willfully ignorant...apx 30% of the population... coincidentally apx the same % of german citizens who where socialist democrats (nazi) during WW2...hmmm
yes he interned at the CIA. his bio downplays it and says he currently has no relationship with them, but those guys are like the aryan brotherhood... nobody gets out alive.....
i left out the bible waving boyscout from hell (oliver north)...he also has close ties with the CIA...he also is in the (alleged) news industry..but he's obvious .....he should be in prison for conspiracy to distribute drugs
from 'conspiracy nut' alex jones...he notes the cia's internship program, coincidentally linked with CNN "Back in 2000, before %u201Ceverything changed,%u201D or had an excuse to change, Dutch and French newspapers revealed that several officers from the 4th PSYOPS Group had worked in the news division at CNN%u2019s Atlanta headquarters as part of an %u201Cinternship%u201D program starting in the final days of the Kosovo War. %u201CIt%u2019s worth noting that the 4th PSYOPS group is the same group that staffed the National Security Council%u2019s now notorious Office of Public Diplomacy (OPD), which planted stories in the U.S. media supporting the Reagan Administration%u2019s Central America policies during the 1980s. Described by a senior U.S. official as a %u2018vast psychological warfare operation of the kind the military conducts to influence a population in enemy territory%u2019 (Miami Herald, 7/19/87), the OPD was shut down after the Iran-Contra investigations, but not before influencing coverage in major outlets including the Wall Street Journal, New York Times and Washington Post,%u201D funny thing about alex jones his research is remarkably thorough
from 'conspiracy nut' alex jones...he notes the cia's internship program, coincidentally linked with CNN "Back in 2000, before everything changed or had an excuse to change, Dutch and French newspapers revealed that several officers from the 4th PSYOPS Group had worked in the news division at CNN's Atlanta headquarters as part of an Cinternship program starting in the final days of the Kosovo War. It's worth noting that the 4th PSYOPS group is the same group that staffed the National Security Council%u2019s now notorious Office of Public Diplomacy (OPD), which planted stories in the U.S. media supporting the Reagan Administration's Central America policies during the 1980s. Described by a senior U.S. official as a vast psychological warfare operation of the kind the military conducts to influence a population in enemy territory (Miami Herald, 7/19/87), the OPD was shut down after the Iran-Contra investigations, but not before influencing coverage in major outlets including the Wall Street Journal, New York Times and Washington Post,
funny thing about alex jones his research is remarkably thorough
"The New York Times had an explosive report finding that most of the retired brass and senior experts that you see on television are merely reciting Pentagon talking points. A massive Pentagon PR effort,..." today's Huffington Post
Canuck - "Well, about as long ago as it took for anyones I.Q. to go above that of a turnip. You flag-waving, brainwashd neo-con zealots make me laugh."
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