Does you think this vdeo will do anything to convince those nutty "22 percenters" that this man was a complete, fall-down putz who was a complete waste of Oval Office space from Day One?
good job canuck...........ya ya yaya GWB is a poo poo head.........ya ya Americans are fat...........ya ya canuck's a sad, pathetic excuse for a man.....ya ya ya
Your C-ness
Given your inability to think and keep events in context, I would say that a TOP 10 list that covers 8 years would be a bit presumptuous to make broader statements about someone as a whole. You know, not enough info.
Your question is lunatic...or, in your case, completely normal.
Remember: bigots were the ones who made larger sweeping generalizations about a person or peoples based on very few observations...that they interpreted through their already biased eyes.
Hey...where's the video of Obama from yesterday?! Anyone see the press conference on Executive Orders? Holy Inexperience, Batman! He asked 2X! TWO TIMES what he was signing and what would be next.
Na...he was just double-checking, right? Gotta be sure.
C-
That was the silliest and most over-stated article I have read in a very long time.
None of those things happened in the way they were described.
He signed EO's that give him lots of room in terms of time and decision making. If you think for one minute that CIA operatives are boxing up their goods and coming home, you got another thing coming.
Please tell me you are not this stupid.
This article and its wording remind me of "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED".
But, these are dispassionate journalists who ask us to openly support our new president. I looked and looked and could not find the same admonitions when Bush was elected.
C-
If GWB's war on terror is ended, please explain that to the Pakistani's that BHO killed...by drone...I believe there were 7, maybe 10. I am sure our lawyers are not as excited to prosecute.
By the by...did you hear about the Saudi who was released from Gitmo and is now a Yemeni Poobah of Al Quaida? Post that link, please.
"If you think for one minute that CIA operatives are boxing up their goods and coming home"
I could care less.
But I DO know that YOU would be completely heartbroken, if they DID cease-and-desist witht their "extraordinary renditions" (i.e., The Transport-To-Torture program).
And I was most interested in this paragraph from it:
"Although the Pentagon has said that dozens of released Guantánamo detainees have %u201Creturned to the fight,%u201D its claim is difficult to document, and has been met with skepticism."
Assuming the information in this article IS true, then it begs the following questions:
1. Why was this individual released to begin with? AT ALL?
2. Why was this individual released to the 'Saudis' (you know----the same Saudis I've been ripping both YOU AND Georgie-Boy a new one over...the same Saudis who've bred terrorists that have taken more American lives over the last 40 years than any other nation on the planet in that time....yes---THOSE Saudis)? I'll repeat this question below.
3. He was captured on Georgie-Boys' watch......he was released on Georgie-Boys' watch. He was probably even tortured on Georgie-Boys' watch, and this may have even been a deciding factor (if this article is accurate) as to why he "got back into the fight". Not sure. But it sure would seem likely....wouldn't it?
4. If Georgie-Boy really thought this guy was dangerous and had real evidence to that effect, why did they make the political decision to turn him over to Bush's pals (the Saudis) instead of putting him on trial?
Nice try, Stream-O.
Lame......but a nice try.
Denying someone due-process and advocating torture upon them serves NO purpose, except to result in events described in this article (if it's accurate). The only thing is DOES serve, is forcing a great nation like the U.S. to relinquish any moral highground it thought it once had, prior to Georgie-Boys regime.
THIS....is what President Obama is trying to reverse.
So get your head out of your ass, and support him.
And I hate to jump on everything you say reamer, but as you are a tool it is hard not to. Canuck makes a good point. Why DID you think that this supported your case?
Like your other hobby-horse, where you assume that if evolution can be proved wrong creation must therefore be right, just because releasing sociopaths doesn't work it does not follow that we should secretly torture people.
"Why DID you think that this supported your case?"
He ain't answering, Bucketboy....but that's okay; I think I can give you a reasonable response on his behalf instead, seeing as I how I know this silly man (AND his posse) like the back of my hand by now:
He thought this "supported his case" simply because when it comes to debating or arguing issues on these threads, he very RARELY leaves the safe, reality-bending confines of his usual neocon rags, i.e., "Newsmax", "Faux News", the "bible....things like that, y'see. So, when THIS article came along in the NY Times (a publication he has repeatedly trashed in the past as being a "liberal rag"), he looked at it and said "By golly, NOW I'm a'gonna show that librul hippy canuck a thing or two, and use his own librul crap against him!" Buuuuut.....as I've mentioned earlier, it's VERY rare for this fella to venture outside the neocon realm, so when he does (such as now), it's unknown territory and he looks before he leaps in his zeal.
Now as for myself, I've already told him time and time again....I'll look at ALL of it: ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Politico, Bloomberg, Huffington Post, Salon, Al-Jazeera, Haartz, The Independent, Reuters, AP, Yahoo and yes, even Faux News, plus others too numerous to name. But him? Nope. He'll stick the same-old-same-old, as long as it dosen't require questioning and can fit neatly into his warped, twisted little world where everyone is as white n' WASP-ish as Audie Murphy and have just just as many lapel pins and say just as many prayers as he does, praise-Jayzus-and-pass-the-ammunition-dontcha-know. The "internets" (as Georgie-Boy refers to it) has now given the whole human race a huge resource at its disposal, wherein we can all now know what the heck our fellow humans are up to anywhere in the world in a matter of MINUTES. Think about that: MINUTES. And all from a gazillion different sources within a button-click away. But him? He's STILL stuck in his narrow-minded tunnel with his fingers in his ears, riding on a perpetual one-way train to Achin' ButtCheek, Alabama. Give'em his Gawd, his bible, his flag, Dick Cheney, a few hundred thousand dead human beings in the latest 'crusades' and his Sunday morning prayers.....and he's happy. Contented, even. You put one million guys like HIM in D.C., and you'll have the death of free thought AND free speech within a month and all the Ayatollahs in Iran combined will look like rabid liberals, by comparison. They'll even make Georgie-Boys' two terms look benign and genius, come to think of it.
So....do I---or should YOU----expect a resonable answer or retort from this pious, caricature of morality? Welllll....al I can say is........
Your questions, both of you, can be answered in this statement:
Your side wants to shut down Gitmo, largely predicated on the belief that it is full of people who may have done nothing wrong, aside from being captured while fighting against Americans.
So, now that you want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, what would you do with these people? If not Gitmo, where?
Shutting it down is simply political. Nothing more.
C-, your questions:
1. I don't know. Go look it up. I am sure you feel entiltled to the answers. Further more, if they are unsatisfactory to you, you will fill in your own version. (See your other questions.)
2. You tell me. So far, no countries want to accept the men we are releasing.
You construct false premises, C-.
3. No, those things don't follow. You imply that this guy was just minding his own business, gets captured, gets tortured and then in a short period of time that usually requires established connections and actions, rises to leadership in the Yemeni Office of Al Qeada. You are smart, C-.
4. Might be a good question. That one I would like to know as well. (The trials that your side has wanted are not required, btw. Military comabatants are captured, not for crimes, but for COMBAT! What would you charge them with?_
There might be hope for you yet.
Oh, btw...the undocumentability of these people is why this type of war requires unconventional tactics.
As to your Washington Post article: DID YOU READ THE WHOLE THING? Lots of context in there. Some contradictory. Why do you keep posting things that don't help you out?!
Good to hear from you, Bucket of Brains. Wear those protective goggles.
Instead of your other Little Kid responses, i.e., "Liar-liar-pants-on-fire", or "You make stuff up!"......you've now gone to Plan C (!) which is "I asked you first".
Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around -- (laughter) -- when yellow will be mellow -- (laughter) -- when the red man can get ahead, man -- (laughter) -- and when white will embrace what is right.
"I am concerned, as I'm sure many of you are, that these jobs [hopefully being created by government spending] not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers."
I have nothing against white male construction workers.[Some of my best friends are white]I'm just saying that there are a lot of other people who have needs as well.....criteria can be set so that they money does go to others: the long term unemployed, minorities, women, people who are not necessarily construction workers or high-skilled professionals.......Robert Reich
We are going to have to approach this in the spirit of experimentation. We have to keep an eye on what works [ white males ] and get rid of what doesn't work [long term unemployed minorities ] as fast as possible.
It's probably not worth much, but here it is. (The opinion of a Glumbert poster doesn't carry much weight in the great scheme of things).
Bush being the most "powerful man in the world" was a surreal experience for most thinkers, but a very real experience for the poor bastards who suffered as a result of his idiocy.
Drivel.
It's almost as if the USA had a collective dose of narcolepsy, and I believe history will judge that period as such.
The old song "If I ruled the World" springs to mind.
If I ruled the world, nothing much would get done, but my reaction to 9/11 would have been to brand the people who did it as criminals - simple. And to have pursued those behind it with all the covert skills that the CIA have built up over the last fifty years. NOT declare a "war on terror" and show my hand to every pressure group on the planet.
Invading Iraq was the most stupid move ever. Expose your troops to danger in the backyard of those who oppose you. The opponents of the USA must have rubbed their hand sin glee when that happened.
Who advised Bush? Well, we know the answer - arms lobby, oil lobby, neo-cons, etc etc etc.
Has it worked? A no brainer.
I have a face like an arse and my power base extends to three nurses, a consultant and several well wishers who bring me flowers which the hospital refuses to allow on the ward for "health and safety" reasons. (Presumably lilies carry spores from outer space which will kill us all). At least it might be quick - death by pollen!
I have a nurse who is a cross between Condoleeza Rice and Myra Hindley. She tells me I must not use the internet unless it is to access "relevant" medical matters.
So I have just done this. Bollox! Where's the good news?
History is wonderful. Wonderful, but depressing. The sum total of tears shed by the human race, the agonies suffered by innocent people over the centuries, the bleak and unremitting refusal to change course in the face of common sense. I imagine the ether being overloaded with the wailing of those who have died lonely and pointless deaths, the mothers who have lost children, the disenfranchised and inarticulate masses who perished for no reason other than that they were in the way of an idea.
Fuck it!
Drivel!!!!
I'm ok Miter. Thanks for asking. Mind you, I'd feel a lot better if the insect known as qlanettint would decamp to some site where he's truly appreciated - maybe www.completemoronicinsults.com
LOL LOL LOL!!!! What's the matter shit for breath, can't take the heat? Your true ignorance sure shines through with your "well versed comebacks" LOL you truly are a pathetic boy playing in a grown-ups world, off with you little one! Go back to mummy...oh what's that...you never left! LOL!!!
I applaud fartknocker, canuck, miter and arseface for not even responding to your silly mutterings, they will outlast you dipshit, that's how thought and intelligence works! You are out of your league! And I haven't forgot you are just a sniveling worthless coward hiding behind an alias, that is why I harras you bitch...I even misspelled it to piss you off LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, I can't wait to see how this ends! Let us see who finds this amusing, interesting, or worthy of a good deal of head-scratching: Canuck: I'm apparently starting to tick him off, which is perhaps because I've sort of taken to his style of going about things. Whatever the case, I'm sure he'll forgive me. He dislikes streamy for "being bigoted, a redneck, and other things", and helldiver for, I THINK.. disagreeing with him. Helldiver: It's enough that he calls me a friend. Best I can tell, he doesn't like either canuck or streamy. Streamlined: He probably takes an hour to write all his posts, due to looking EVERYTHING up in the BuyBull, and making sure nothing he says goes against God's word, like the good, model Christian his parents raised him to be. I don't think I've heard anything offensive from him yet! (Yeeeeeah, RIGHT!) He doesn't like helldiver or canuck, yet has declared that he likes me.
I'm thrilled! Caught right in the middle of a big battle, what will happen next? Well, I am happy to report that our hero, (yours truly), is no longer bored. However, he is likely going to continue writing insanely long posts.
The "grading rubric" for comments or responses, if any, to this short novel: There will be ten bonus points awarded for a "fuck off loser" from qlanettint, and five bonus points for a "i would love for qlanettint to die" from fartknocker. One "lol" is highly preferred, although an "lmao" would be even better. Bonus points may be awarded for more than ten exclamation points or all caps. The main thing I will be looking for is positive feedback from Canuck, so be sure to comment!
Um, listen young-un, taint grammer school here. No one here gives a rats ass who like's who! You are your own worst enemy here pal, tone it down or grow up, we have enough spastic children in here as it is! Guess I'm in a harassing mood today....who else can I jump on.....
I like Streamy just fine, even if I may be on the opposite end of the religious spectrum from him. And I'm pretty sure if Streamy were a women, he'd want to bear my children. The enemy of my enemy is my friend!
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